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re: Rudy G said Hunter's Attorney contacted asking for the HDD back minutes after story broke

Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:12 am to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:12 am to
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If someone else claimed it was for you and that it had damning evidence about you on it, your lawyer absolutely should ask to see it. If he didn't, you should fire him immediately.

I can't imagine a lawyer even being involved unless you have something to be worried about.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:18 am to
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I can't imagine a lawyer even being involved unless you have something to be worried about.
Then you should probably tell Trump to get his lawyers to stop blocking the release of his taxes.

Seriously though this might be the dumbest thing I've read on this site, and that's saying a lot.

If you are accused of something, especially of this magnitude, the very first thing you should do is call your lawyer. Welcome to Life 101.
Posted by reverendotis
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:18 am to
That would be my legal right to do so once the thing in question became evidence in a trial - called discovery, right.

Until that happens, I don't have any right whatsoever to inspect shite at random no matter what somebody says they have or don't have.

I can have my attorney demand until he fricking drops dead, it doesn't change a thing.

Now if you claim I stole something from you - file a police report stating such and let's go from there. In doing so, you must admit this thing was in fact your property.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:19 am to
Imagine white knighting for that piece of shite family These people are absolute dog shite
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:27 am to
So just minutes after the story broke Hunter was aware of very serious allegations that he was hearing for the first time, kept his cool and thought it through, and then took the rational step of contacting his attorney who he immediately advised must attempt to retrieve the devices? Nah. He immediately became paranoid, knowing what was potentially about to be made public.

And the comparison with the Trump tax situation is too bad to address.
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 1:29 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:28 am to
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That would be my legal right to do so once the thing in question became evidence in a trial - called discovery, right.
So until then you'd like your lawyer to twiddle his fricking fingers?
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I can have my attorney demand until he fricking drops dead
And he should.


Regardless, asking or demanding to see supposed evidence does not in any way validate it. Very often that could mean the opposite. This is known as "calling a bluff".
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:30 am to
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Don't know why anyone would take this as some sort of verification.
Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:30 am to
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Korkstand

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28746 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:31 am to
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So just minutes after the story broke Hunter was aware of very serious allegations that he was hearing for the first time, kept his cool and thought it through, and then took the rational step of contacting his attorney who he immediately advised must attempt to retrieve the devices? Nah. He immediately became paranoid, knowing what was potentially about to be made public.
A nice theory, and you may even be right. But having a lawyer ask to see some evidence does not in any way validate it.
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And the comparison with the Trump tax situation is too bad to address.
You're the one who said you just couldn't imagine lawyers being involved unless there was something to worry about. Do you stand by that?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10156 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:33 am to
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If someone else claimed it was for you and that it had damning evidence about you on it, your lawyer absolutely should ask to see it.

Asking to see damning evidence against your client is one thing...Asking to get it back is another.

I guess we will have to see the wording in the email.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:38 am to
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Libs will just say Hunter's laptop was stolen, Russians planted all that info on the hard drive and then dropped it off at the computer repair shop knowing it would eventually get into hands of the Conservatives.

So, you think that anybody would believe, that if the Russians had these kinds of photos and stuff on a candidate's son, that they could use to blackmail that candidate in the future, if he got elected, that they would be supporting the other guy? That's funny.

I know, if I was somebody like Putin and I had dirt on Biden's son, I would want to get Biden elected.





I never said what you are inferring. I said what the Libs will do to spin the story. Unfortunately the media will back them up and most of the country will believe the Biden's version of events.
Posted by auggie
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:39 am to
Well, they are going to get to see it, along with the rest of us
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28746 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:40 am to
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Asking to see damning evidence against your client is one thing...Asking to get it back is another.
It's data, there is no distinction here. Copies are free.
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I guess we will have to see the wording in the email.


Yeah we need to see a lot of shite.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:42 am to
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You're the one who said you just couldn't imagine lawyers being involved unless there was something to worry about. Do you stand by that?

Yeah, I was of course referring to this particular case with the lawyer remark. Not "I can't imagine a lawyer being involved, in any case, ever."

Look, I will agree that the lawyer thing isn't direct verification or evidence of anything. But it is circumstantial evidence.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28375 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:43 am to
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most of the country will believe the Biden's version of events.

Not really, because it's not believable in any way, but OMB and he triggers their feelings, so they will make lame excuses for Biden.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28746 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:50 am to
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Yeah, I was of course referring to this particular case with the lawyer remark. Not "I can't imagine a lawyer being involved, in any case, ever."
Gotcha, so as usual "if my guy does it it's fine, if your guy does it it's suspect".
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Look, I will agree that the lawyer thing isn't direct verification or evidence of anything. But it is circumstantial evidence.
No, it's not even that, it's just a lawyer doing the very basics of his job. Any rational and unbiased person can see that.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:02 am to
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Gotcha, so as usual "if my guy does it it's fine, if your guy does it it's suspect".

No, man. Good Lord. They're just completely different scenarios. One involves quick emergency action, the other involves a more "structured" planned-out situation.

Much like I wouldn't compare this particular Hunter situation with, say, his recent child support proceedings wherein he had an attorney present.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28746 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:16 am to
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No, man. Good Lord. They're just completely different scenarios. One involves quick emergency action, the other involves a more "structured" planned-out situation.

Much like I wouldn't compare this particular Hunter situation with, say, his recent child support proceedings wherein he had an attorney present.
So, generally, blanket statements are bad is what you're saying? Agreed.


If you were accused of something with enormous national implications, if it were true you would call your lawyer, but if it were fabricated you would not? Is this your assertion?
Posted by CaTiger85
Member since Feb 2020
1394 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:33 am to
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You're the one who said you just couldn't imagine lawyers being involved unless there was something to worry about. Do you stand by that?


Trump’s lawyers didn’t get involved with tax returns until a suit was filed specifically demanding them. You do know tax returns aren’t public. In fact, if an IRS agent leaks them it is a felony. That is how serious the government is about protecting their privacy.

Yet here you are, comparing Trump engaging lawyers to respond to a filed suit with Biden’s lawyers demanding a hard drive you claim isn’t his within minutes of a newspaper story? How many fake news stories have been run about trump? How many times did his lawyers get involved within minutes of the stories being posted? Or did he just usually say “fake news?”
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 2:40 am
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 4:53 am to
Korkstand thought he did something.
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