The only difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4 is a stand up backer and an end with his hand on the group.

Aranda’s defense was really a 3-3-5 and that’s really the same as a 4-2-5.

The main difference in Aranda and Bo’s schemes is Aranda likes to keep his Dline from getting too far in backfield and protecting his LBs. Bo let’s the Dline blow and go which gets his LBs blocked so if the Dline doesn’t make the play we are screwed. Another difference is in Arandas scheme you only have 1 true pass rusher in when in your base D Bc your weak side end is basically a tackle. Bo’s scheme you got 2 guys that can get after the QB on pretty much every down. So Bo can get more pressure but he’s not as sound against the run as Arandas scheme.

Aranda’s gonna have his nose in a shade. Strong side end in 4i. Bo is gonna be in a 1 tech and a 3tech.

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Posted by Topwater Trout

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Posted on 10/14/20 at 11:25 am to redfishfan

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Aranda’s defense was really a 3-3-5 and that’s really the same as a 4-2-5.

which we are prob in most plays

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Posted by Naptime

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Posted on 10/14/20 at 11:29 am to redfishfan

Far from the only difference. 3-4 is built around big 2 gap players that eat space. 4-3 all 7 are responsible for a gap. Totally different style of players up front. That’s just a start

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Posted by bubbaprohn

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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:07 pm to redfishfan

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The only difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4 is a stand up backer and an end with his hand on the group.

There are a few other differences but this is pretty much it.

With a 3-4 you are still generally rushing 4, you just have more options on where that 4th guy is coming from. You can also drop 8 in coverage whereas it's not really efficient to do that in a 4-3.

LSU's biggest problem is LB play this year. Regardless of a 3-4 or 4-3, your LBs have to be able to track the RB and hit him near the LOS to be successful and our LB's have not done that 95% of the time this year. D-Line play needs improvement but I think that will be solved with some of the younger guys (Roy, Guillory, etc).

LSU ran a lot of 4-2-5 against Missouri (it looked like 4-3 but that 3rd LB was Stevens so it was pretty much a 4-2-5) and the LB play was what killed us. Couldnt stop the run and routinely didn't cover the RB out of the backfield. It was also painfully obvious that a lot of the players are confused as to what they should be doing. The scheme change coupled with lack of practicing due to covid, losing everyone last year was just a perfect storm for a shitty season.

It looks bleak right now but I think the defense will get it turned around. I really would like to see Clark benched for someone else though. Not only has he missed assignment after assignment but I have seen him spend way too much time jogging after ball carriers instead of going 100%.

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Posted by Alltheway Tigers!

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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:38 pm to redfishfan

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The only difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4 is a stand up backer and an end with his hand on the group.

Over simplification there. There are major differences within a 4-3, or 3-4 for that matter.

Philosophy is the start of a defense. Are you a bend don’t break or all blitz...or somewhere in between? Do you want to adjust defense each game (complicated) or run a base set (simple)? And so on.

Then, you look at your Joes to see what you can actually do.

You can do much of the above in various sets - 3-4, 4-3, 3-3-5 and so on. Within a 4-3 (or other set), a coach can be aggressive, passive, or a mix. Think, there is a 4-3 over, 4-3 under, 4-3 Tampa, Miami 4-3 and so on.

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