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Please help me reconcile something

Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:58 pm
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:58 pm
For context, I primarily listen to two shows: Shapiro and Bongino. And full disclosure, I am 100% MAGA so I am biased.

My eyes and ears (and common sense) tell me that Trump is going to win in a landslide. The support for him compared to the pitiful support for Biden is clear.

Bongino doesn’t necessarily mention the polling too much, but he seems VERY confident that Trump will win.

Shapiro, on the other hand, consistently mentions how bad Trump is doing in the polls and, without explicitly saying it, keeps suggesting Trump will lose.

My question is why does Shapiro keep harping on the polls and suggesting (without actually stating) that Trump will lose?

Nobody can deny that Shapiro is extremely intelligent.. but he has to know these polls are faulty, so why does he continue to lean on them so heavily in his shows? It seems like he’s doing a disservice to his listeners imo.

Just thinking out loud here. I like listening to his show but he pisses me off when he continues to hammer home the polls that we all know can’t possibly be accurate.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:59 pm to
Shapiro is a douche.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141392 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:59 pm to
One of those two guys hates our President. The other one doesn't.

I'll let you figure out which one hates him.

Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:59 pm to
Just remember what the polls said last time
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:01 pm to
Shapiro is Nev-A-Trumper
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
9088 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

My question is why does Shapiro keep harping on the polls and suggesting (without actually stating) that Trump will lose?


He is like the Postman’s son, he is jizzing in his pants for OMB to get beat so he can say I told you so. He cares more about trying to be sharp than he does the country.

Too bad for the little shite Biden and his race for a dollar are about to get smoked
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:02 pm to
Shapiro is a low IQ simp
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52839 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Nobody can deny that Shapiro is extremely intelligent


Watch me
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19579 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Watch me


I should’ve clarified- he is booksmart
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

One of those two guys hates our President. The other one doesn't.
More accurate to say that one WORSHIPS Trump and the other does not.

I tend to discount the opinions of unquestioning sycophants.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:12 pm to
Shapiro needs Trump to lose for monetary reasons. He's wishcasting hardcore.

*ETA: Bondino needs Trump to win, so there's that also
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 8:14 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

My eyes and ears (and common sense) tell me that Trump is going to win in a landslide. The support for him compared to the pitiful support for Biden is clear.
There is not question that (among supporters) support for Trump is both louder and deeper than support for Biden.

But elections are not shouting contests. The vote of an ardent supporter counts exactly the same as the vote of a lukeward supporter.

So, the only question is whether Biden's lukewarm supporters will take the time to vote. If so, Trump loses. If not, Trump probably wins.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19579 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:13 pm to
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AggieHank86


Hank I know you catch a lot of hell on here but you raise a good point

I should probably try to find someone in between. I do like Bongino a lot but he is anything but impartial. And Shapiro is the opposite. A neo-con who merely tolerates Trump and always shits on him.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26271 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:14 pm to
Maybe because he knows the polls are BS and also knows the dims will know how many votes they need to make up after the polls close. It is called illegal voter fraud. The have lready been exposed doing it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:15 pm to
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Shapiro is a low IQ

Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19579 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

Shapiro needs Trump to lose for monetary reasons. He's wishcasting hardcore. *ETA: Bondino needs Trump to win, so there's that also


Could you elaborate? I admittedly only became interested in politics about 4-5 months ago when it became clear that standing idle and ignoring things wasn’t wise.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:20 pm to
Bongino is a big Trump guy. if Trump doesn't win he's going to fade away and Bongino loses luster

Shapiro is build to be the opposition. Even with Trump, he's the opposition. He'll get a lot higher ratings as a foil to a DEM President.
Posted by PetroAg
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Posted by PetroAg
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Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:23 pm to
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Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141392 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:28 pm to
I'm not sure if there is an objective person out there.

But if there is, Tim Pool might be him.

You should consider listening to him.
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