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re: Did everyone's Blue Cross-Blue Shield premiums go up for 2021?

Posted on 10/4/20 at 12:37 am to
Posted by Swank
South Yorkshire
Member since Oct 2014
848 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 12:37 am to
Imagine blaming poor people while the US wastes an ungodly amount of money on wars and defense spending and certain billionaires only pay very little in taxes in 16/17. You people are so fricking brain dead.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69470 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 12:50 am to
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Imagine blaming poor people while the US wastes an ungodly amount of money on wars and defense spending and certain billionaires only pay very little in taxes in 16/17. You people are so fricking brain dead.
you really need to learn some math.

a national healthcare spending would cost around 34 trillion each decade. to put things in perspective, that alone is about equal to the current TOTAL COST OF the federal govt over the next decade! in other words, we would be DOUBLING the budget. it would be an unfathomable increase in required new tax revenue.

left leaning vox.com on the huge tax increases that would be required to pay for national healthcare

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Paying for the $34 trillion would require nearly doubling federal tax revenues. Let’s examine three paths using data from CBO’s menu of budget savings:

What about just taxing corporations and rich families? Raising the final $34 trillion would require seizing roughly 100 percent of all corporate profits as well as 100 percent of all family wage income and pass-through business income above the thresholds of $90,000 (single) or $150,000 (married), and absurdly assuming they all continue working. (This calculation refers to individual income, not investment income.)
How about a European-style value-added tax (VAT), which is basically a national sales tax? A rate of 87 percent would be needed to collect $34 trillion under the American tax base.
What about payroll taxes? Lawmakers would need to create a new 37 percent payroll tax, on top of the existing 15.3 percent payroll tax, in order to collect $34 trillion.



swank, my friend, my dude.....america spends 800 billion a year on military.

even if we literally cut military spending to zero, meaning we fire every soldier, sailor, marine, etc, and disband every unit, tear down every military building and research center, disband every ship and plane, etc..... those savings would amount to less than 25% of the needed increase in revenue to pay for national healthcare.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71757 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 7:22 am to
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US wastes an ungodly amount of money on wars and defense spending


Who is the only president in your lifetime to not start a new war?

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certain billionaires only pay very little in taxes in 16/17


He had no income either year. Campaigning is a full time job and he donates his current time salary bank to the government (which is the same result as paying $400k in taxes). Maybe we should tax consumption instead of income.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425567 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 7:52 am to
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Imagine blaming poor people while the US wastes an ungodly amount of money on wars and defense spending and certain billionaires only pay very little in taxes in 16/17. You people are so fricking brain dead.

man you're hitting for the cycle

also, i hope you're a Trump fan. he's the biggest agent of peace and reducing military conflicts for the US since probably pre-WWI
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:12 am to
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US wastes an ungodly amount of money on wars and defense spending


Its true and the people who have the ability to control the costs of healthcare are completely in bed with big pharma and the healthcare providers.
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