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IF (when) the Dems *win* POTUS election via (fraudulent) mail in ballots...
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:07 am
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:07 am
what will you be willing to support? I am loathe to even address this scenario...and more so to post it. But I think all on this Forum know that this scenario is highly likely, if not inevitable. Fraudulent mail in ballots WILL 'trash' the election, and it will be a Bush v Gore scenario wherein the Courts either allow mail in anarchy...or stop it. With no guarantee that the Loser will acquiesce to an 'illegitimate' SC mandate.
Given the gravity of the Dem takeover, and their expressed intent (Stacking the SC, adding States like DC, Puerto Rico, etc., implementing State Health Care and confiscating guns via 'health' issue, nixing Electoral College...ad infinitmn.....I'm interested in how many on this Board would OPENLY be supportive of an arms-based, Citizen's effort to prevent what would obviously (truthfully, minus subjective self-delusion, from either side) be a tyrannical, fraudulent ballot-based coup. I know that just posting a supportive opinion re this scenario, could be considered as future 'evidence' of seditious/treasonous intent, depending on who holds the reins of power (Government). If Biden (Transnational Progressive Ideology) takes power, this very Forum is gone; or at the least punished to the point that it self destructs (think Tea Party).
So, if no one chooses to express their opinion, I'll understand.
Myself, I fear for my own Family/Loved One's welfare if I choose to tacitly/publicly support armed redress, over the Leftist "fundamental transformation"....and given my Christian (bias) perspective re "He that leadeth into captivity, goeth into captivity"...I believe that if I support something...I will partake of the consequence therein. I am sorely conflicted...so I take it to the Posters on this Board...whose opinions I much value and respect, regardless of Ideological leaning...mostly so
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I'll understand the 'tl/dr takes, and non posts as well. However, we can run...but in 30 days...we can't hide. There is a ray of hope that if we "walk softly but carry a big stick"...the TP's will back off, temporarily, and await demographic changes that bode will for their "fundamental transformation"; I.e., that 'sabre rattling' might avert tragedy.
I've got to work, so I'll be AWOL for a while. Not a hit and run.
Hard to hit the 'submit'. Oh well. Conscience rules.
Given the gravity of the Dem takeover, and their expressed intent (Stacking the SC, adding States like DC, Puerto Rico, etc., implementing State Health Care and confiscating guns via 'health' issue, nixing Electoral College...ad infinitmn.....I'm interested in how many on this Board would OPENLY be supportive of an arms-based, Citizen's effort to prevent what would obviously (truthfully, minus subjective self-delusion, from either side) be a tyrannical, fraudulent ballot-based coup. I know that just posting a supportive opinion re this scenario, could be considered as future 'evidence' of seditious/treasonous intent, depending on who holds the reins of power (Government). If Biden (Transnational Progressive Ideology) takes power, this very Forum is gone; or at the least punished to the point that it self destructs (think Tea Party).
So, if no one chooses to express their opinion, I'll understand.
Myself, I fear for my own Family/Loved One's welfare if I choose to tacitly/publicly support armed redress, over the Leftist "fundamental transformation"....and given my Christian (bias) perspective re "He that leadeth into captivity, goeth into captivity"...I believe that if I support something...I will partake of the consequence therein. I am sorely conflicted...so I take it to the Posters on this Board...whose opinions I much value and respect, regardless of Ideological leaning...mostly so
. I'll understand the 'tl/dr takes, and non posts as well. However, we can run...but in 30 days...we can't hide. There is a ray of hope that if we "walk softly but carry a big stick"...the TP's will back off, temporarily, and await demographic changes that bode will for their "fundamental transformation"; I.e., that 'sabre rattling' might avert tragedy.
I've got to work, so I'll be AWOL for a while. Not a hit and run.
Hard to hit the 'submit'. Oh well. Conscience rules.
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Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:10 am to RCDfan1950
Give me liberty or give me death.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:15 am to RCDfan1950
Ah, the old, "Let's have a civil war, but unfortunately, I have to work" thread
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:16 am to Yak
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Ah, the old, "Let's have a civil war, but unfortunately, I have to work" thread
Ah, the old Venezuela 1998 voter updated to today
You will be whining loudest within 6 months of harris being sworn in
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:22 am to gthog61
You'll either fight, or the Wolf will be at your door. Literally.
Heels Up will pack that court, and once they do that, they'll have a rubber stamp for anything. Including EO's to take your guns, hate speech laws where they drag preachers from the pulpits and even you from your home, remove your children from a hate filled environment, and force you to do who knows what.
401K's and retirement funds? You didn't earn that. Time to redistribute that, that could be a very good source for reparation money.
Think I'm kidding? Do nothing and find out.
Heels Up will pack that court, and once they do that, they'll have a rubber stamp for anything. Including EO's to take your guns, hate speech laws where they drag preachers from the pulpits and even you from your home, remove your children from a hate filled environment, and force you to do who knows what.
401K's and retirement funds? You didn't earn that. Time to redistribute that, that could be a very good source for reparation money.
Think I'm kidding? Do nothing and find out.
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 9:29 am
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:23 am to RCDfan1950
I think how close Stacey Abrams got to winning - now I think stealing after seeing a lot of the strategy that is being used now, having been done then... just jacked up on steroids - and I see how things would have been (Michigan, New York, California, and other Democrat Governors). I shiver.
They used her election cycle and others as a test run to what they are now doing. We all should FEAR what they are doing.
We all should Fear what will happen if they are successful. This is life changing.
They used her election cycle and others as a test run to what they are now doing. We all should FEAR what they are doing.
We all should Fear what will happen if they are successful. This is life changing.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:31 am to RCDfan1950
Do I have a plan in place should that happen? Yes
Am I going to post details on a message board? LOL!
Am I going to post details on a message board? LOL!
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:32 am to RCDfan1950
There are a few options .
We all quit our jobs to live off the government the day Biden is sworn in . They can’t make it with out our trade workers. I am trying to get finisher in order to be able to live off a minimum amount of money to live off the government too.
We can do nothing.Most likely will happen .
We have a civil war . It’s going to take a couple of crazy’s to start shooting people for this to happen . May take a lot more then a few if the new outlets try to hide it . The left knows they can’t win a civil war . If the kill all the republicans they lose half of the tax payers and a lot of the tradesmen.
We split the country in half . Like a civil war the democrats don’t want to do this . We would have all the jobs and they would become a full communist country . All of the democrats would be trying to move back to the republicans country.
We all quit our jobs to live off the government the day Biden is sworn in . They can’t make it with out our trade workers. I am trying to get finisher in order to be able to live off a minimum amount of money to live off the government too.
We can do nothing.Most likely will happen .
We have a civil war . It’s going to take a couple of crazy’s to start shooting people for this to happen . May take a lot more then a few if the new outlets try to hide it . The left knows they can’t win a civil war . If the kill all the republicans they lose half of the tax payers and a lot of the tradesmen.
We split the country in half . Like a civil war the democrats don’t want to do this . We would have all the jobs and they would become a full communist country . All of the democrats would be trying to move back to the republicans country.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:55 am to tjv305
None of this BS is happening. There will not be a civil war or rebellion. No one will step up to lead because everybody knows the Feds will infiltrate and arrest anyone who tries. Are you willing to risk arrest and trial for treason and face execution? A few very public trials and executions would end the revolution very quickly.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:45 am to FlyingTiger1955
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There will not be a civil war or rebellion.
"None of this BS is happening"; this is Denial. There already is a (cold) Civil War. The last Administration CRIMINALLY employed Justice and Intel Institutions to manipulate the election. We know the future by examining the past.
My OP addresses the likelihood of the CV going hot. Your Statement "everybody knows the Feds will infiltrate and arrest anyone who tries", affirms my own assessment in this post. Do you really believe - given the overt corruption of Government (Trump Muh Russia, Impeachment, Flynn, Hillary/Biden corruption pass, and Obama's "run from the top complicity in said Coup), do you really believe that patriotic Americans are going to just lay down and be essentially enslaved and punished? There is 10% who'll go rogue, as any such Federal 'Government' action would be considered an outright declaration of war. Hell, the Left (BLM) thinks such to be the case today; in that they believe Civil LE to be illegitimate, unjust and therein fair game. It's just a matter of what provokes the Right to respond in kind.
As one Poster pointed out, it only takes a handful of said 'Patriots' to kick it off; just like in the Founding Revolution.
My OP question is directed to assess the percent of citizens who would chose a bloody fight, if necessary, and as well their underlying reasoning re this sacrificial choice. I hope this 'reasoning' can add wisdom to my own current dilemma.
I just buried our favorite and beloved family dog in my back yard...he went quick and before his time...and I utterly am terrified at the idea of burying my Great Granddaughter in the same way. My fear is based on as much what kind of person I may become, if such happens, as on the normal and primal fear of bodily suffering and pain. I'm 70, and suffering and death walk daily with me regardless; I can handle that pain...it's the Spiritual stuff that bothers me. My choices/actions...forming my Soul.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:10 am to RCDfan1950
This is a great right wing brainwashed cult thread. Why don’t y’all tell us more about how y’all are going to start murdering people because you are in a minority politically but want to control everyone by force.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:25 am to RCDfan1950
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what will you be willing to support?
Bullets
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:28 am to TBoy
Well, I've got my 'answer'. Both Sides are going to hold true to their cognitive biases and claim the moral high ground. The Left will claim that the Right is in the "minority politically", and the Left will attempt to "control everyone by force". Think Mike Flynn for starters.
I guess my OP was to determine an estimate of the numbers who will - in spirit - sympathize with that small number of 'Patriots' (subjective perception) who will kick off an exponential and viral...dogfight. As that happens...the public choice will be simple...join with the good folk in our community to fend off the heathen gangs...or submit to and or join the gangs. Sounds like you'll be wearing a BLM/Antifa shirt, huh TB? Ha.
Civil LE and the Military will be paralyzed in such a scenario; the only ability that the 'Government' will have for control, will be the ability to deliver Government printed money or Healthcare...or not. I.e., "take the Number and worship the beast...or no buy and sell". IMO, most will take that "number"...for the sake of survival, and a pseudo-peace.
Oh well, don't have to worry about arguing this one.
Here we go.
I guess my OP was to determine an estimate of the numbers who will - in spirit - sympathize with that small number of 'Patriots' (subjective perception) who will kick off an exponential and viral...dogfight. As that happens...the public choice will be simple...join with the good folk in our community to fend off the heathen gangs...or submit to and or join the gangs. Sounds like you'll be wearing a BLM/Antifa shirt, huh TB? Ha.
Civil LE and the Military will be paralyzed in such a scenario; the only ability that the 'Government' will have for control, will be the ability to deliver Government printed money or Healthcare...or not. I.e., "take the Number and worship the beast...or no buy and sell". IMO, most will take that "number"...for the sake of survival, and a pseudo-peace.
Oh well, don't have to worry about arguing this one.
Here we go.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:30 am to FlyingTiger1955
quote:
There will not be a civil war or rebellion. No one will step up to lead because everybody knows the Feds will infiltrate and arrest anyone who tries. Are you willing to risk arrest and trial for treason and face execution? A few very public trials and executions would end the revolution very quickly.
Funny, because I think your scenario would only strengthen the resolve, and increase those willing to step forward.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:32 am to TBoy
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This is a great right wing brainwashed cult thread. Why don’t y’all tell us more about how y’all are going to start murdering people because you are in a minority politically but want to control everyone by force.
There’s only one side of these ideologies that wants to “control everyone by force”.
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:12 pm to TBoy
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This is a great right wing brainwashed cult thread. Why don’t y’all tell us more about how y’all are going to start murdering people because you are in a minority politically but want to control everyone by
Signed, the homicidal maniacs who are washing feet, cancelling anyone with opposing views and forcing innocent people to raise their fists... while also burning cities and murdering or attempting to murder people on the streets who denounce a radical ideology that literally "controls everyone by force".
One can't be so unabashedly hypocritical. Do you like to pretend all of your heinous actions are committed by ring wingers?
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:52 pm to ValVenis
I'm counting you as a patriotic, Counterrevolutionary sympathizer, V; see you in Gitmo if Bid...Harris, wins.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:57 pm to RCDfan1950
If you don’t like it, leave.
Right?
Right?
Posted on 10/3/20 at 1:48 pm to FlyingTiger1955
quote:
None of this BS is happening. There will not be a civil war or rebellion. No one will step up to lead because everybody knows the Feds will infiltrate and arrest anyone who tries. Are you willing to risk arrest and trial for treason and face execution? A few very public trials and executions would end the revolution very quickly.
Like I said it only takes a few crazy people to start shooting and the rest of the world will defend their self when they fear the other side is going to attack . If a truck load of Trump supporters come to your neighborhood and shoot up all the democrats houses are you going to trust any Trump supporters ?
Posted on 10/3/20 at 1:52 pm to RCDfan1950
How would you know if it was a fraudulent victory or not?
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