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re: Listen to the Flynn Hearing today @ 11:00AM EST- LIVE

Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:45 pm to
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okay so this guy talking is repping the govt/DOJ correct?


Yes. He is really good. Burning Sullivan's arse.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:47 pm to
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Sidney is straight up blistering Sullivan's arse right now. She is fantastic rebuking every single thing he brings up. Said we have only seen this type of thing happen in other countries.



A judge acting as prosecutor is something straight out of Henry VIII’s England.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:49 pm to
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Sidney is damned good.


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And it wont make a lick of difference in this “hearing”. I use the term “hearing” loosely.


Yeah, this is all a show. Sullivan’s been told how it needs to happen going in.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
38434 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:49 pm to
That's what they want. A permanent underclass where the rules don't apply to them.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:50 pm to
Is it me or did Sullivan make clear at the beginning that Gleeson SHALL be a part of the record and a special counsel. When essentially Gleeson is the Judges lawyer so he calls him special counsel as in special lawyer not like a special council like what Mueller was, right?

Also Sullivan said he doesn't want to hear certain things yet he went after Sydney for writing a letter to Barr?

So essentially the Judge's first statement (and reading his lawyers diatribe) who has no business in this, showed his bias that he has already made up his mind before hearing the case?
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 2:52 pm
Posted by PimpDaddyHustleStack
Lowcountry
Member since Nov 2007
270 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:55 pm to
Powell and the 2 lawyers for DOJ are dismantling Gleeson and all his bullshite arguments. It isn't even a fair fight and the fat that this case is at this point, in this situation is incredible.
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:57 pm to
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Is it me or did Sullivan make clear at the beginning that Gleeson SHALL be a part of the record and a special counsel. When essentially Gleeson is the Judges lawyer so he calls him special counsel as in special lawyer not like a special council like what Mueller was, right?


No, I took it as the Mueller SCO, when he used the term special council

I forgot who/when, but in earlier arguments the SCO was brought up, any subsequent mention of the SCO, I take, to be referencing that specifically
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:57 pm to
So now the govt's/DOJ's lawyers are saying this needs thrown out, big time. The govt is begging to dismiss. The judge can't decide to play prosecutor.

Sullivan not ruling to drop all of this TODAY and dismiss; will automatically show Sullivan & Gleeson as a political prosecutor Judge-- and it will be frightening...
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:58 pm to
thanks. so since when can a Judge appoint a special council under the guise of his lawyer with his views?
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Member since Aug 2004
33718 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:59 pm to
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So essentially the Judge's first statement (and reading his lawyers diatribe) who has no business in this, showed his bias that he has already made up his mind before hearing the case?


yes - exactly


Almost at every turn, anytime Sullivan speaks he is overtly, on the record, desperately trying to defend his supposed impartiality. He keeps trying to tie his previous decisions in the Flynn case to show non-bias

He's clearly in self-protection mode, and Gleeson is making it worse
Posted by EagleEye99
Member since Dec 2017
2477 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:02 pm to
Sullivan is trying to downplay the GROSS misconduct by FBI, DOJ, et al by bringing up a totally different case and trying to parallel how this case doesn't rise to that level as being blatantly evident of gross misconduct. BS Sullivan, this is fricking treason, sedition whatever the frick you want to call it.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33718 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:02 pm to
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Sullivan not ruling to drop all of this TODAY and dismiss; will automatically show Sullivan & Gleeson as a political prosecutor Judge-- and it will be frightening...

We're already there, and camp has been set


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. so since when can a Judge appoint a special council under the guise of his lawyer with his views?


I have no idea, I assume never
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:03 pm to
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He keeps trying to tie his previous decisions in the Flynn case to show non-bias


He is trying to run out the clock to the election in hopes a Biden win another AG will reverse the decision to drop the case. That is what this is about plain and simple.


The shittest part of all of this is George H W Bush put this guy on the Federal bench.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
151403 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:04 pm to
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desperately trying to defend his supposed impartiality.
when Sullivan said he didn't know his colleague Judge Carreras recused that was weird...

you are correct Sullivan said many times he was fair offered Flynn counsel....blah blah blah

If he were truly always fair to Flynn he wouldn't have a need to make it a matter of record.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
151403 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:06 pm to
did Sullivan just say? He will take the case up. The case is volumnious.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:06 pm to
This entire affair is nauseating.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
82901 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:07 pm to
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He is trying to run out the clock to the election in hopes a Biden win another AG will reverse the decision to drop the case. That is what this is about plain and simple.


If Biden wins, Trump pardons him the next day. Game over.

These people are insane. Living in the moment. It’s a bunker mentality.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
82901 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:11 pm to
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Powell and the 2 lawyers for DOJ are dismantling Gleeson and all his bullshite arguments.


Take a second and think about this statement.

Powell and the DOJ attorneys are supposed to be on opposite sides of this case, arguing before the judge. Not jointly arguing against him.

TOTAL
frickING
CLOWN
WORLD
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33718 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:14 pm to
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did Sullivan just say? He will take the case up. The case is volumnious.

yeah

Here's where it really goes off the rails: During the 2nd hearing, the en banc one, SUllivans attorney made it a point that Sullivan would NOT look to expand the investigation, to NOT request for more evidence in this case. Specifically to show he was NOT acting as a prosecutorial investigator in his process.

However, here we are when at least twice, I heard him specifically ask for "records" regarding communications between parties and something else(I cant remember exactly)

Assuming Powell is running headlong to the Appellate court in the morning, I would think this would be a huge bullet point
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
6089 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:17 pm to
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How in the flying frick is Sullivan a judge?


Affirmative action?
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