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re: Do people REALLY not understand why you go for two after the first TD when down 15?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:24 pm to shel311
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:24 pm to shel311
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See, perfect example of assuming it's a 1 possession game and the 2pt conversion will be made.
There's just as high of a chance that an 8 point game is a 2 possession game as it is a 1 possession game
I don't think you understand what a "1 possession game" is. Being down 8 points is a one possession game because you have the possibility of scoring 8 points without having to kick off to the other team. So whether or not it is difficult to score 8 is not the point. It is the fact that you have the possibility to.
Being down 9 is literally a 2 possession game. You can't score 9 points on one possession.
The term one possession game is simply referring to the fact that you have possibility to score that amount of points in one possession. By your logic a 7 point game isn't truly one possession because you might end up with a field goal on the possession.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:32 pm to made4lsu
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I don't think you understand what a "1 possession game" is. Being down 8 points is a one possession game because you have the possibility of scoring 8 points without having to kick off to the other team. So whether or not it is difficult to score 8 is not the point. It is the fact that you have the possibility to.
Being down 9 is literally a 2 possession game. You can't score 9 points on one possession.
The problem is that when you frame the argument this way, you've assumed a missed conversion in the early argument and then framed it against the conversion not having been done yet for your go for it late argument. You're not comparing apples to apples
Posted on 9/23/20 at 3:55 pm to made4lsu
quote:I don't think you understand that being down 8 is REALISTICALLY not a 1 possession game.
I don't think you understand what a "1 possession game" is.
It's more than likely a 2 possession game, THAT is the point.
quote:No matter what, if you miss the 2pt conversion, it IS a 2 possession deficit, again, THAT is the point. Going for 2 later doesn't magically increase your odds of getting that 2pt conversion and/or increase your odds of tying the ball game.
Being down 9 is literally a 2 possession game. You can't score 9 points on one possession.
quote:Apples to orange when you're talking about a near 100%(or whatever it is, likely lower now) conversion rate compared to a sub 50% conversion rate. Again, I'm talking about the reality of the situation which is all that should matter to a coach. The perception that it's a 1 possession game isn't relevant. The reality that you have a more than 50% shot that it IS a 2 possession game matters.
By your logic a 7 point game isn't truly one possession because you might end up with a field goal on the possession.
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