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re: Proof that the polls are not accurate
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:29 pm to Angry Bruce Pearl
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:29 pm to Angry Bruce Pearl
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I kind of wonder what the Trump team sees in Nevada to invest time and money there.
Here are my thoughts:
1. It's typically a bellwether.
By voting for Hillary in 2016, it broke a 9-election streak of voting for the presidential winner every time (1980-2012).
2. Trump seems to be improving with Latino voters
Even outlets like CNN are stating this so its obviously true. If Trump makes up just a few points with Latino voters compared to 2016, then Nevada is very much in play.
3. Nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the country (13.2%)
Nevada has high unemployment because it likely has the highest ratio of service workers of any state in the union. With few people travelling for vacations right now, and with zero major conventions going on in Vegas, that means there are a lot of people looking for work.
While that typically dooms an incumbent, Trump appears to be the candidate most aggressively wanting to open back up the economy while Biden is talking about how we need to shut things down. That bodes well for Trump
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But it's just not that many electoral votes. I'd much rather see him all over the Midwest. Way more EVs there.
Based on the reasons above, I think Nevada might swing further towards Trump this cycle than most other states.
A somewhat likely scenario is unfortunately a 269-269 tie. That would involve everything happening the same as 2016 except for Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin going back over to the DEMs. Trump likely still wins the presidency if this happens, but it would be so divisive he knows it would doom his second term.
There's also real concern he could lose NE-2 or ME-2 which either of of those joining those 3 states above in the Biden column would be enough to lose the election.
I think the Trump campaign sees Nevada similar to Wisconsin and Michigan in that all were decided by thin margins and based on the situation this year, Nevada might be a more likely pick-up that those other two are likely to be holds.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:43 pm to prplhze2000
quote:2012 was different. Romney had the worst GOTV initiative of the computer age. There is not a close second. Romney's internals had him in a deadheat. Had his GOTV "Orca" operation worked, his internals were probably dead on.
I fell for this crap in 2012
With MI, PA, and NV now openly cheating, Trump may underperform accurate polling. But that's a different equation than 2012.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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With MI, PA, and NV now openly cheating, Trump may underperform accurate polling
Michael Moore said this week that Biden's GOTV effort in Michigan is worse than Hillary's in 2016. You also have DEM organizers in PA complaining about the Biden campaign's ground game.
They may be cheating, but the also appear to not have a very strong ground game.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:52 pm to NC_Tigah
Just to add this. Trump will be here in NC tomorrow. Apparently, he’s slated to be in Fayetteville. He’ll be back here on Tuesday.
It looks like he’s ramping up his presence in NC.
It looks like he’s ramping up his presence in NC.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:22 am to RolltidePA
quote:At some point that will be more about Tillis than Trump.
It looks like he’s ramping up his presence in NC.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:18 am to NawlinsTiger9
Does it even help Biden to campaign in a state? Haven’t seen any crowds or excitement anywhere he goes.im thinking his best bet is to just scream OMB on h v
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