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June Unemployment by State

Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:03 pm
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Notice a trend in the top 15 compared to the bottom 10?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35427 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:05 pm to
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Notice a trend in the top 15 compared to the bottom 10?


Not particularly. Plenty of Democratic governors/legislatures/cities in both sets.

The top 15 have almost no population when compared to the bottom 10. More rural states and those states without enormous cities are less impacted by the virus.

Nothing about the chart should surprise anyone.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:06 pm to
How many times has Kentucky been number 1 in anything besides basketball?
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:07 pm to
Mountain Dew Consumption?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12370 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:09 pm to
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Notice a trend in the top 15 compared to the bottom 10?
Population levels?
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1736 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:11 pm to
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he top 15 have almost no population when compared to the bottom 10. More rural states and those states without enormous cities are less impacted by the virus.

Nothing about the chart should surprise anyone.


That's funny...then shouldn't Texas be at the bottom also instead of #22?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:13 pm to
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That's funny...then shouldn't Texas be at the bottom also instead of #22?


Well, no. Texas has big cities but also an equally enormous rural and suburban population. I would expect those factors to balance out vis-a-vis overall covid impact, and for Texas to be.....just about in the middle.

States with populations disproportionately located in one or two massive cities are the ones I would expect to be most impacted. And, there they are at the bottom of your chart. The inverse would be true for the states at the top.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:16 pm to
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How many times has Kentucky been number 1 in anything besides basketball?




Yet, even with a 4.3% unemployment rate Kentucky is giving max food stamp benefits to anyone receiving food stamps and Medicaid to basically anyone who asks for it, including not having a citizenship check. Andy Beshear is a piece of shite marxist.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:17 pm to
28! Finally the middle of the pack in something!
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1736 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:18 pm to
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Well, no. Texas has big cities but also an equally enormous rural and suburban population. I would expect those factors to balance out vis-a-vis overall covid impact, and for Texas to be.....just about in the middle.


Delaware, Hawaii, and Nevada are ranked like 45th, 40th, and 32nd in population. All bottom dwellers in UE.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:19 pm to
So what you're saying is it sucks to live in big cities surrounded by other Democrats.


Welcome to the GOP.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35427 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:20 pm to
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Delaware, Hawaii, and Nevada are ranked like 45th, 40th, and 32nd in population. All bottom dwellers in UE.


And, all states whose populations are disproportionately located in one metro area (Wilmington, Honolulu, and Vegas), meaning that COVID's impact to those states UE numbers will be outsized.

It really is not hard to see that.

As I side in my previous post:
quote:

States with populations disproportionately located in one or two massive cities are the ones I would expect to be most impacted. And, there they are at the bottom of your chart. The inverse would be true for the states at the top.


Which perfectly describes the states you listed.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35427 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:20 pm to
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Welcome to the GOP.


I have never been anything but a Republican.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:22 pm to
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I have never been anything but a Republican


Then why would you look at that chart and think anything other than "because of their leadership"?

It's obvious that dem leadership are trying their hardest to slow the economic recovery until after the election, and this chart just reinforces that.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35427 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:26 pm to
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Then why would you look at that chart and think anything other than "because of their leadership"?


Because that is not always the answer? Hell, Kentucky is number one on the list with a Democratic governor. There are GOP-led states near the bottom. That is just not the dominant factor here, not for the UE numbers at least.

UE is worse in urban areas at the moment than elsewhere and decidedly so. Therefore, states with a higher percentage of their population being urban will have higher UE numbers.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted by bama will rise again
N Alabama
Member since Apr 2014
1669 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:32 pm to
80% of American population is urban..
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35427 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:34 pm to
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80% of American population is urban..


That is not relevant to any post I have made in this thread.

My point is that a state's UE at this point is very likely to be proportional to the percentage of its population that lives in large cities (or is clustered into one single population center). The larger that percentage is, the larger that state's UE numbers are likely to be at this time. The individual states discussed so far in this thread have borne that out to a T.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1736 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:46 pm to
If you count for the govs, state house & senate the bottom 10 are 83% dem and the top 10 are 76% Pub.

9 of the top 10 are "red" states

10 of the bottom 10 are "blue" states

That's a pretty strong correlation. Would like to see by % of urbanization also.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1736 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:48 pm to
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Plenty of Democratic governors/legislatures/cities in both sets.


Uh.....no.

Bottom 10:

9 dem govs, 8 dem house and senate

Top 10:

6 Pub govs, 9 pub house and senate
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:51 pm
Posted by bama will rise again
N Alabama
Member since Apr 2014
1669 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:52 pm to
Yeah I tried to get it but it wanted me to create an account. But yeah just ur typical, moving the goalposts argument.

ETA: icip.iastate.edu
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 5:00 pm
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