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re: How are these bankers allowing PPP fraud not busted?

Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20533 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:07 pm to
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As a banker, you can look at everything and check every box and if someone is going to defraud you they’re going to defraud you.


Sure I get that absolutely, but at the same time I believe I had to submit somethings that would make some of this very VERY obvious. Such as, bank statements for 2-3 months or a tax form.

You are certainly right in that maybe these guys are forging all the bank statements, tax forms, payroll forms, etc.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4466 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:27 pm to
We got tax forms 940/941's that looked completely legit along with an application and the whole nine yards. Everything matched up and we funded the loan. It wasn't until the customer made one small mis-step before funding that raised a couple of eyebrows or we would have had $500k out the door with total fraud and a phony company. Every single thing lined up exactly how it should have.

These guys were professionals fraudsters and knew what they were doing. Lucky for us they got dumb right at the last minute and made one very small mistake which cost them.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Sure I get that absolutely, but at the same time I believe I had to submit somethings that would make some of this very VERY obvious. Such as, bank statements for 2-3 months or a tax form.

You are certainly right in that maybe these guys are forging all the bank statements, tax forms, payroll forms, etc.


The bigger banks were taking a long time to process the apps, and were cherry-picking their clients.

Some smaller outfits, and places that are more non-traditional, were accepting anyone and rolling through them quickly.

I'm wondering if when we start really finding out who the fradulent appliers were, if they are all gathered around a few "banks".
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