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New Trafalgar Group Poll: Trump leads in Arizona

Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:26 pm
Again, this is the polling group that basically nailed the election results in 2016.

LINK

Trump: 46.2%
Biden: 44.8%
Jorgensen: 3.2%
Other Party: 1.4%
Undecided: 4.4%


Biden's percentage is pretty much in line with how the Dems have performed in Arizona for the last 5 election cycles...

Gore (2000): 44.67%
Kerry (2004): 44.32%
Obama (2008): 44.91%
Obama (2012): 44.45%
Clinton (2016): 44.58%


I would assume most of those "undecideds" would lean towards Trump over Sleepy Joe. I would guess Trump will win Arizona by 4-5 points.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93887 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:27 pm to
I mean seriously besides anyone who is insane have you met one single person that wants to vote Biden?

Besides RLSU (lulz)
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73224 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:28 pm to
I love how trafalagar polls.


instead of asking all the respondents who THEY are voting for, they ask poll respondents who they think THEIR NEIGHBOR is voting for.

it attempts to solve the issue of shy trump voters not telling pollsters their intentions.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

Gore (2000): 44.67%
Kerry (2004): 44.32%
Obama (2008): 44.91%
Obama (2012): 44.45%
Clinton (2016): 44.58%


That's it. That is your Democratic Party vote in Arizona.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:30 pm to
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That's it. That is your Democratic Party vote in Arizona.

Yeah, I keep on coming back to those numbers from past elections in Arizona. It's shockingly consistent.

I know everyone always references the influx of Californians moving to Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and a bunch of other states, but it's frankly going to take a LOT of people voting democrat that haven't ever before for Biden to realistically win that state in 2020.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Yeah, I keep on coming back to those numbers from past elections in Arizona. It's shockingly consistent.


That's like the dumb shite polls with Biden leading in Florida by 9 or 10... Florida hasn't been won by more than 3%, I think it is, by either party in any election since 2000. But now all of a sudden Biden is going to win by 8 or 9 there? Give me a break.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:42 pm to
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I mean seriously besides anyone who is insane have you met one single person that wants to vote Biden?


I have not met one, maybe I travel in more intelligent circles or have been in quarantine too long?
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
12085 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:50 pm to
This poll had 54% female voters and Trump still leads. Good sign.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21875 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:51 pm to
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Yeah, I keep on coming back to those numbers from past elections in Arizona. It's shockingly consistent.

The real story here is if Trump drive turnout, McSally has a legit shot at beating China-Boy Kelly.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3601 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:52 pm to
How many non- binary for the Texas A&M folk?
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4607 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:56 pm to
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The real story here is if Trump drive turnout, McSally has a legit shot at beating China-Boy Kelly.


Trump vs Never Trump will be driving every contest this election.

I think we may see a Rep win the Traficant Seat (NEOhio) in the house. Poor Tim Ryan. The last time the seat flipped was 1984.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:03 pm to
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This poll had 54% female voters and Trump still leads. Good sign.

Yep.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21509 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:34 pm to
That poll in Florida got me nervous.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93887 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:38 pm to
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That poll in Florida got me nervous.


The 3% undecided they already said will go to DJT
Posted by Outrage Mob
Member since Aug 2020
16 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:56 pm to
Out here in suburban TX a couple of years ago, I saw easily 100x more Beto yard signs in the months before the election than I see Biden signs now (two so far). And we know how well that worked out for Beto...

Plenty of people with Trump signs and even flags in my neighborhood. Plus, you drive 10 minutes outside of the city and every other property has a huge Trump flag.

Very poor enthusiasm for Biden out here. Hard time seeing TX turn blue based on what I’ve seen. Of course, I’m not in the Austin area. No telling what’s going on in that disaster zone.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:27 pm to
Mail in voting. Trump loses
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:50 am to
Arizona has a republican governor and a republican attorney general.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:23 am to
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Mail in voting. Trump loses


Chex- for possibly having one of the best avis on the board, you can have the most negative outlooks sometimes.

Cheer up, baw. We got this.

Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:33 am to
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I mean seriously besides anyone who is insane have you met one single person that wants to vote Biden?


No, but I know a lot of people who want to vote “not Trump” and that should scare us all.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 5:34 am
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:03 am to
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it attempts to solve the issue of shy trump voters not telling pollsters their intentions.


But just as inaccurate
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