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re: If there’s no school in Fall teachers shouldn’t get paid
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:54 pm to tduecen
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:54 pm to tduecen
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Well they should be paid more since that that 182 is paid out over 12 months instead of 10 months.... I'm ok with a pay raise to deal with the kids you don't want to
Let’s agree to disagree. It takes no skill to be a teacher.
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:55 pm to Rhino5
dude. what are you even try to say
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:55 pm to tduecen
I posted this is another thread:
quote:
What schools should do is ask the teachers and parents what they prefer: in person or virtual.
Once they get those numbers, have a master schedule for teachers and students who opt for in person.
Also, have a master schedule for teacher and students who opt for virtual.
frick this shite of having every teacher having a mixture of both. That is going to be fricking miserable for teachers.
I teach high school math. I volunteer to teach 5 days a week in my class to the students who choose the in person learning. That’s all I want.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:55 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Disagree, I takes skill to be a teacher... Even if you don't want to see it or believe it
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:56 pm to jac1280
quote:exactly what schools in my area are doing, but I actually live in a nice area
jac1280
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:57 pm to Rhino5
I'm not talking about student performance, on some level that's out of their control. I'm talking about lesson preparation, organization, behavioral systems, staying on top of paperwork, communication...in other words control everything you can control because a large part of the job is out of their control with respect to your argument
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:57 pm to memphis tiger
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Do you mean if there is online class but kids aren’t physically in school or if there is no school at all?
If the former then yes they should get paid, if the latter then no they shouldn’t.
Even with the the former if it's a repeat of last 3 months of year they should get paid less based on quality as well as they don't need as many teachers to do what most districts were doing. Curving of grades and/or inflation of grades had to have been crazy high. I also feel for elementary kids and parents as that seems like much more hands on than middle school and high school. The district needs to refund some money to those parents.
After recently stating hybrid plan was settled and good to go our district decided to do all virtual for a few weeks. City and county active cases are just under 0.08% of perspective populations. Based on the freak out of teachers back in March because they had to show up on Monday when schools first suspended and students didn't I assume this in part coming from teachers including maybe not getting enough to cover the kids whose parents wants to participate in a actual classroom setting. I also saw that this move must have helped them qualify for funding to offer all secondary classes in virtual classrooms for entire year which also played a part. District will find every funding game available even if it not in kids best interest. Even delaying a week or two if truly concerned for students and teachers equally would been better, but someone has wanted this year to finish before Memorial Day weekend since adopting earlier date during the last school year with only a 7 days notice before vote and isn't backing off what is an early start date for us.
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:57 pm to tduecen
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Disagree, I takes skill to be a teacher.
What are some of those skills?
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:59 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Managing all that time off!
Posted on 7/19/20 at 4:59 pm to LSUsmartass
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:00 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
You ever managed 60+ kids with different learning styles? You can't force them all into some cookies cutter learning styles that you learned. You have different student temperaments, you have to organize between what is beneficial for students vs what adminstration tells you, you are making decisions based on the learning if students aren't understanding the lesson of the day, etc.....
Much like any other management job you are making decisions each day for future use and how to make things easier on yourself with 60+ individuals depending on the grade level. 3-4 has about 60, 5th on up deals with 90+ students
Much like any other management job you are making decisions each day for future use and how to make things easier on yourself with 60+ individuals depending on the grade level. 3-4 has about 60, 5th on up deals with 90+ students
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:03 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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What are some of those skills?
Dealing with 20+ kids 7 hours a day, 5 days a week for one. And state reporting standards whike making $30k.
If I was a GOOD teacher, I’d probably consider quitting and starting a private home school at this point. Fewer kids, better pay, less sickness, fewer idiot parents to deal with.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:04 pm to Dusted
quote:Oh you're one of those dipshits that think teachers don't do anything during the summer.
Kids need to be back in school and teachers need to quit trying to stay at home a few more months. Get off your asses you lazy fricks
Let me guess. You also don't want unemployment to be extended either. So you want teachers to teach online, for free, and also get no government assistance to help pay their bills?
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:05 pm to Rhino5
If you're making 30k then you're a private school teacher that couldn't land a public teaching gig
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:05 pm to Rhino5
"good" teachers stay because they feel they are making a difference, bad teachers stay because it is secure and there is a shortage..... If education upped the pay and set standards for teachers that didn't include student scores you would see many driven out of teaching and it improve
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:06 pm to Dusted
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I like that idea. Make them actually teach as they would if the kids were in class. Not just throw together a couple assignments and put them online then down a couple Xanax and go to mimosas with the girls.
Dunno why but this made me lol uncontrollably
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:08 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
This is what I don't understand people here think getting a tax break or something smh. This is just pure hate for teachers
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:17 pm to DiamondDog
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Louisiana should want their kids in school. Like half of public school kids are on free lunch. How else they going to feed their kids?
Ah, a great percentage of those families are lying about income so their kid doesn't have to pay for that horrible lunch. Don't assume anything based off that metric.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:19 pm to DiamondDog
You can always leave this state... and if don't live here why the frick are you worried about it.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:23 pm to tduecen
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Well they should be paid more since that that 182 is paid out over 12 months instead of 10 months....
This part has to be a troll, but being the OT and a 4 dot ellipsis I am not completely sure.
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