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re: Here’s some evidence that certain reporters want more testing so that things look worse
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:21 am to the808bass
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:21 am to the808bass
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Gtfo. Y’all had almost 25% of the deaths in your state. Don’t come back to tell us what we’re doing wrong.
Absolutely tone deaf.
Right, because NY did nothing while the virus silently spread in February and March and thus experienced terrible outcomes early in the pandemic and then fought our way back in control and are now doing relatively well, it is really important that rest of the country learn nothing from that experience and make the same mistakes again and again. That seems self-defeating. Anyway, have you moved off your false claim about herd immunity being broadly present in NY? Or will you just continue to make shite up?
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 7:19 am to longwayfromLA
Do you have data to support NY lockdowns being stricter or more effective than California’s? If not, how do you explain CA spiking but not NY? How is that easier to believe than that Farr’s Law has just reached the end of its cycle in NY?
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:08 am to longwayfromLA
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Right, because NY did nothing while the virus silently spread in February and March and thus experienced terrible outcomes early in the pandemic and then fought our way back in control and are now doing relatively well, it is really important that rest of the country learn nothing from that experience and make the same mistakes again and again.
What exactly should be learned from the N.Y. experience? No one knows the extent of the nursing home clusterf*ck. They purposely didn’t track all deaths related to long term care facilities.
For example, the data isn’t consistent nor complete across the country, but we know 45% of deaths are from residents of such facilities. However, NY’s data only claims 10% of deaths despite their facilities being hit exceptionally hard.
The NY state government and Cuomo just released a huge report trying to cover their asses. The report is full of manipulated and selective data. I’m sure it’s no coincidence that they were able to massage a lot of data to fit their narrative because they don’t have huge pieces of it because they purposely didn’t collect it.
Someone can claim their numbers are down because of herd immunity. You can claim they are down because of mask and social distancing policies. I can cite their cases and deaths skyrocketed when Cuomo started sending positive patients back to nursing homes in late March. Cases and deaths have dropped dramatically since he revered his policy in late May.
Who knows because we don’t have full and accurate information.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:31 am to longwayfromLA
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Anyway, have you moved off your false claim about herd immunity being broadly present in NY? Or will you just continue to make shite up?
I didn’t present it in the first place. You wrongly inferred it. Some people will get the virus and some people won’t. Some people (a very small percentage), will experience severe health outcomes including death. The virus will move through the population and will then subside.
Viruses go up and then they go down. States that shut down before they had an outbreak are seeing an outbreak now. I don’t expect any of it will be as serious on the scale New York’s was.
The bigger question is will this be around two years from now. I tend to doubt it.
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