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re: Libertarian presidential candidate Jo Jorgensen's platform is VERY appealing.

Posted on 7/4/20 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by HempHead
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/4/20 at 9:51 pm to
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Libertarians are for open borders and free trade while also being in favor of eliminating all forms of entitlements and government subsidies. Open borders is the optimum policy in the absence of a welfare state, but a welfare state makes open borders national suicide.



I used to think the same way, but I have since revised my stance. I think a very, very limited legal immigration system is to be preferred, up until the point that there is a labor shortage.

I am interested in libertarian policy insofar that it does the best for the polity, not for the sake of ideological purity. That's where I see open ended immigration even with absolutely no entitlements being a detriment. It depresses wages for the lowest end workers, who quite frankly are the biggest danger for social unrest.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/4/20 at 9:52 pm to
I'm definitely not for open borders, but I am in the live and let live category. Do whatever you want as long as it doesn't affect me, and I'll do whatever I want.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67297 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 9:57 pm to
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It depresses wages for the lowest end workers, who quite frankly are the biggest danger for social unrest.


Without a welfare state, wages are based entirely on labor supply and demand. People migrate purely based on economic prospects. As wages go down, the incentive to immigrate to the United States declines as well, resulting in fewer immigrants. If wages decline too much, people will emigrate elsewhere. Otherwise, you are just creating disparities which result in an illicit jobs and immigration market.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:52 am to
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think a very, very limited legal immigration system is to be preferred, up until the point that there is a labor shortage.

we had a big skilled labor shortage this is why the unemployment rates was previously so low and immigration was being requested by tech comapnies.

i dont know if its true right now due to covid but tech isnt even laying off as many as most so i imagine we will return to in need to technologist again quickly



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