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re: LSU having to deal with a “free speech” versus “hate speech” issue

Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:08 am to
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7947 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:08 am to
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Glad you excuse cops killing people because other people in the community glorify violence.


Now you are just being dishonest. Chauvin is a piece of shite and I will never defend his actions.

I just cannot stand the obfuscation and refusal to address the real problems. Statistically a black man is more likely to die by another black man. Why is this never addressed when it is a much larger problem?

You do realize that they are not mutually exclusive and can both be true at the same time, right?

There is literally nothing I can do to fix the issues that are affecting the black community.

What are you doing to fix the issues Mr. white savior?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:09 am to
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Why can’t people just listen and be sympathetic, have some empathy?


Stop looting
Protest ALL police violence
Stop saying black lives matter when you ignore your own community killing each other.
Stop calling things racist that aren't.

Then, people will listen.
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:09 am to
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Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9142 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:11 am to
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You do realize that they are not mutually exclusive and can both be true at the same time, right?



I do understand that. But that’s the thing y’all don’t understand. Nobody is talking about that. The only people who are are the people who are deflecting from talking about racial issues.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:12 am to
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And I’m a cuck


FIFY...
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7947 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:12 am to
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I do understand that. But that’s the thing y’all don’t understand. Nobody is talking about that. The only people who are are the people who are deflecting from talking about racial issues.


You typed a lot to say nothing.

Again, Mr. white savior, what are you doing to fix the issues in the black community?

You seem to have a lot of righteous indignation but are short on answers.

I'm listening like you asked. What are the solutions to solve all the problems?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:14 am to
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The only people who are are the people who are deflecting from talking about racial issues.


Screaming "whitey is the Debil" at the top of your lungs isn't "talking about racial issues".
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9142 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:16 am to
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Again, Mr. white savior, what are you doing to fix the issues in the black community?



We’re starting by addressing the cop brutality issues. So why do you keep in deflecting from that and bringing up useless stats about black on black crime? Does that excuse cops being able to kill and batter black people?
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7947 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:16 am to
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I do understand that. But that’s the thing y’all don’t understand. Nobody is talking about that. The only people who are are the people who are deflecting from talking about racial issues.


You are also failing to realize that a large portion of the white population will not listen to your grievances but there are daily stories about intraracial violence in the black community.

You cries will fall on deaf ears until that is addressed.

Listening goes both ways my dude but we both know you are not looking for a conversation but rather to lecture white people about how evil they are.

Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18986 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:16 am to
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I abhor cancel culture, and this is a slippery slope, but I have no problem barring his admission, even if he is just a juvenile.


So you're a concern troll Karen.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36444 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:18 am to
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Speaking of that white, you got any?

If you'd asked me 4 years ago, answer would be yes.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27353 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:19 am to
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Does that excuse cops being able to kill and batter black people?


I hate cops as much as the next guy, but your premise is false. That happens at an almost statistically zero rate.

With the amount of interactions that occur, the fact that it doesn't happen more is a fricking miracle.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9142 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:19 am to
I’m plenty willing to listen about black on black crime. I still don’t understand how that has to do with anything about cop killings and cop brutality towards the Black community
Posted by titmouse
a tree branch above your car
Member since May 2006
6375 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:21 am to
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Hard to break student code of conduct when he's not officially a student yet.


Code of conduct says something about "denying membership" which I guess is for admittees.

2.0 Governance of the University
The University has the legal right to establish standards for academic and personal conduct for continued membership in the University community, to deny membership to those who do not meet these standards, and to impose outcomes and discipline on any Student who is found in violation of these standards.

Within the Office of the Dean of Students, Student Advocacy & Accountability (SAA) is responsible for administering this Code of Student Conduct (the “Code”). SAA generally cannot make public comment on any individual’s case, as per the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). However, in limited circumstances, as required or allowed by law, information relative to certain incidents and case statistics may be disclosed.

The Code of Student Conduct Review Committee will initiate periodic reviews of the Code and recommend changes to the President. The Committee shall be comprised of the following 11 members appointed by the Office of the Vice President of Student Affairs:

Dean of Students,
A SAA Staff member,
Nine at-large members from the University Community,
Three students,
Three faculty members,
Three staff members.
The Dean of Students or designee shall chair the committee. Continued service is at the discretion of the Office of the Dean of Students. SAA may recommend minor, non-substantive revisions to the Code for approval to the Dean of Students.

Upon request by the Vice President of Student Affairs, any 6 of the 11 members shall constitute a quorum and thereby can conduct University business. No member of the Code of Student Conduct Review Committee may serve by proxy.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9142 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:22 am to
I shouldn’t have went there. Glad you’re doing well
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7947 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:25 am to
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We’re starting by addressing the cop brutality issues.


Fair and reasonable start. However, you do realize that more white people per capita are killed by police right?

The issue is police violence against everyone, not just blacks.

quote:

So why do you keep in deflecting from that and bringing up useless stats about black on black crime?


How is it useless when statistically speaking intraracial violence is much more likely cause of death for a black man?

Please enlighten me. I guess I'm just too smoothbrained to get it.

quote:

Does that excuse cops being able to kill and batter black people?


Please link me where I have excused police brutality? I am no fan of the police and have never defended them so you are levying an accusation that will never be true.

You are attempting to drive a wedge where there is none.

You are showing yourself to be a bad faith actor dude.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:25 am to
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We’re starting by addressing the cop brutality issues


Cool, then let's proceed with the fact that the "Black Community" SUCKS at choosing Heroes.....

Remember, Floyd stuck a gun in a pregnant womans' belly, but he' being painted as an ANGEL by the Left.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35079 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:25 am to
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But that’s the thing y’all don’t understand.


Who is this y’all you are referring to?
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7947 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:28 am to
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Cool, then let's proceed with the fact that the "Black Community" SUCKS at choosing Heroes.....


Yep.

Botham Jean. Say his name. David Dorn. Say his name.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7947 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:37 am to
LINK

Stolen from the poliboard but relevant to this discussion.


quote:

At least 13 people, many of them black, have been killed in the past week as Americans flood city streets to protest police brutality.

The death toll, based largely on a list compiled by The Associated Press, comes as protests swell, boarded businesses face looters and images of police officers violently dispersing demonstrators surface from coast to coast.

The unrest has followed the killing of George Floyd, a black man who died when a white cop kneeled on his neck for more than eight minutes.


How is more violence and murder at allegedly "peaceful protests" furthering the cause, Mr. white savior? We are all listening and waiting for answer. Your silence is deafening.

The optics on this whole movement are fricking terrible and will not do much to garner support from white people in middle America.

This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 10:47 am
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