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re: CBS & USA Today Articles - "not good things (are coming to LSU)"

Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:12 am to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:12 am to
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Nobody said it was (except you). The analogy is about ignoring what is in plain sight (FBI wiretap) and convincing yourself it means nothing.

No. You're analogy is attempting to vilify people by saying that they would be bystanders and condone a crime because they don't share your views on breaking NCAA laws. It's dumb.

I'm not saying it means nothing. It also doesn't mean that Wade necessarily paid any player to play for LSU. If you want to bring breaking the law into this, then let's talk about innocent until proven guilty. I know you're gonna bring "the NCAA doesn't need the same level of evidence as the law" into this, so don't bring up breaking the law.
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The fact is, you have no excuse for unethical behavior/cheating except to say, "everyone does it" and "we must cheat in order to win." This is an extremely sad commentary on the state of your character. I hope you are never in a position to influence young people.

You think these players aren't already aware of how this goes? They've been exposed to it for years before they ever even get to college in AAU. You just don't understand how collegiate athletics works. This isn't a Will Wade problem. This is an NCAA problem because they've allowed it to get this bad. You either have to provide extra benefits or lose. This is why schools like Cal Poly, Stephen F. Austin, Creighton, St. Bonaventure, etc have been put on probation. Everyone is doing it on some level. That's the reality. You can stand on you're high horse and scream about your morals all day, but the NCAA is corrupt and that's just the way it is.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:29 am to
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No. You're analogy is attempting to vilify people by saying that they would be bystanders and condone a crime because they don't share your views on breaking NCAA laws. It's dumb.

I guess you are just dense. My analogy is about sticking your head in the sand and ignoring what is clearly in front of you. My statement about accepting unethical behavior is about the possible reasons for doing that.
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If you want to bring breaking the law into this, then let's talk about innocent until proven guilty.

I'll say it one more time for the learning impaired....the NCAA is NOT a court of law. Courtroom "rules" DO NOT APPLY HERE.
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so don't bring up breaking the law.

I didn't. My analogy was about ignoring what is right in front of you. YOU decided to muddy up the issue by twisting my analogy into something different. Tha's on you.
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You think these players aren't already aware of how this goes?

I don't know....and you don't either.
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You just don't understand how collegiate athletics works.

Once again, another attempt by you to excuse unethical behavior. This is what you (and others) ALWAYS distill this issue down to....It's OK to cheat because everyone does it.
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This is an NCAA problem because they've allowed it to get this bad.

Finally, we can agree.
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You either have to provide extra benefits or lose.

There you go again...."everyone does it and therefore, if we want to win, we must do it too."
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Everyone is doing it on some level.

You don't know this. Just because YOU say it (and maybe believe it) does not make it true.
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the NCAA is corrupt and that's just the way it is.

Do you support the NCAA putting a stop to this issue? And before you say it's not fair for some to get caught and others to get away with it....the clean-up has to start somewhere.
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