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re: Police should walk off the job in some of these cities.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:52 am to magildachunks
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:52 am to magildachunks
Correction...man has a heart attack while being detained by an officer and sadly he dies. Truly a shame.
Why was Mr. Floyd detained? What did he do to put himself in that position in the first place? I don't hear these questions being asked.
This is what happens in a society where a parent rushes to judgement and blames the teacher, the principal, the school board for what their little Johnny "didn't do".
The solution is personal accountability and respect for authority...not blame and victim ideology. So this sort of thing will continue. Rinse and repeat.
Why was Mr. Floyd detained? What did he do to put himself in that position in the first place? I don't hear these questions being asked.
This is what happens in a society where a parent rushes to judgement and blames the teacher, the principal, the school board for what their little Johnny "didn't do".
The solution is personal accountability and respect for authority...not blame and victim ideology. So this sort of thing will continue. Rinse and repeat.
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:55 am to SoloTiger
quote:Because those questions don't matter when Mr. Floyd is restrained, a cop is kneeling on his neck, and the 3 cops around him are ok with it.
Why was Mr. Floyd detained? What did he do to put himself in that position in the first place? I don't hear these questions being asked.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:56 am
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:55 am to Eighteen
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This is sorta hilarious based on the violence that goes on in those communities. When none of those are the last straw, something is seriously broken.
It’s amazing you can’t figure out the difference between that and between murders that are state funded and defended usually without legal ramifications for the officers who committed the killings
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:57 am to SoloTiger
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Why was Mr. Floyd detained? What did he do to put himself in that position in the first place? I don't hear these questions being asked.
What did he have for breakfast that morning?
That is an equally important question to the one you asked.
The character assassination in order to dehumanize these people so you can blame anyone but the murderers is so tiresome
Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:02 am to Vidic
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What we should do is have better police training and pay so fricking thugs won’t get in and kill innocent people.
This is the only answer, but with what money? Small town/parish/county police and sheriff’s offices won’t ever have the resources to implement these. I hate the idea of a national police force, but how do you make sure every department is properly funded?
But think about the difference it would make if ALL police officers were 1) required to have a B.A. in, say Criminal Justice or a curriculum designed specifically for future officers, 2) upon college graduation, required to attend a longer and more rigorous police academy with both a national standard of instruction and achieved excellence to graduate, 3) a much more in depth psychological evaluation, and 5) $50k guaranteed entry level with MERIT-BASED raises and promotions.
I know all the logistics would take time to implement, the funding would have to be creatively found, and there would have to be legislative safeguards built-in to prevent even the appearance of living in a police state. But we have to provide more resources for training, technological advances, and maybe most importantly, to incentivize a higher quality candidate.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:12 am to Hot Carl
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Why would you walk off a job requiring a GED that is safer than lawn care while getting generous government pay, loads of overtime, and the ability to be above the common citizen when it comes to most real world applications of the law. No one is walking away from that
Safer than lawn care? WTF, lmao.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:15 am to Bluegrass_Cat
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Bluegrass_Cat
Don’t @ me. I didn’t say that dumb shite.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:59 am to Tyga Woods
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If they are being forced to take this shite and not respond they should strike and let these cities burn to the ground.
Do you mean quit or just take a knee like and not do their job?
Because I thought we were against one of those.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:03 am to Tyga Woods
Until officers are paid much higher than $15/hour, the quality of officers will never increase
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:05 am to Fat and Happy
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:13 am to Tyga Woods
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There are thousands of interactions between police and black people daily. Something like this Floyd incident happens at most a couple of times a year. Yes, one time is one too many but the “we’re being hunted” narrative is false. White people get killed too.
Correction. Maybe a couple make the news but there’s 1000s of videos of cops abusing their authority with citizens of every race. Can’t fix the problem if we keep downplaying it as just a few bad apples bc bad apples have spoiled the bunch.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:27 am to LSUAngelHere1
quote:And this is one of the few jobs where you can't afford to have ANY "bad apples".
Can’t fix the problem if we keep downplaying it as just a few bad apples bc bad apples have spoiled the bunch.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:29 am to pvilleguru
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And this is one of the few jobs where you can't afford to have ANY "bad apples".
And how do you accomplish this? There are plenty of politicians who are bad apples too.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:37 am to fallguy_1978
Make it easier to fire those that abuse their power, increase training, better background checks, incentivize/encorage cops to turn report their shitty coworkers, require a higher level of education, etc. Really, it has to start with the departments themselves. They have to make a stand and get rid of the ones that have no business being on the force.
The cop that kneeled on Floyd's neck had something like 18 complaints filed against him. That's completely unacceptable.
The cop that kneeled on Floyd's neck had something like 18 complaints filed against him. That's completely unacceptable.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:37 am to Tyga Woods
And have everyone realize they would be better off without them in the first place? Yeah that's never going to happen. Actually all of the gun-clutching might make since if we didn't have the police. What if there were no police but everyone had an AR in their home? How often do police being in a situation actually make you feel better about it? I'd say maybe 2 out 10 situations.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:39 am to Sidicous
quote:This brilliant post got 40 upvotes. This place is funny.
They should all resign immediately after the riots end and tell the mayors/governors to deal with it on their own
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:04 pm to pvilleguru
In today's world.
Yes
Yes
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:32 pm to Tyga Woods
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Police should walk off the job in some of these cities.
I'll be honest, I would volunteer my city first. Of course, there is hardly any violent crime, I have never had to call the police in my life and my sole interaction has been them pulling me over for supposedly not coming to a complete stop. Oh, and they are now trying to make up for lost revenue because there were hardly any tickets written for 2 months. Our force could have 2/3 of it lopped off and there would be enough to write the reports for the occasional shoplifting incident or car getting broken into.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:37 pm to Vidic
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What we should do is have better police training and pay so fricking thugs won’t get in and kill innocent people.
Bingo. In fact, I would take the money saved by lopping off 2/3 of our force and devote all of that money to the salaries for the 1/3 you keep. Once you make the salaries more attractive, you can attract better candidates. I can create a safer neighborhood with a fraction of the force but that force is higher quality individuals who are better trained and better paid. Here, I think just about anyone can become a cop.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:40 pm to Eighteen
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Yet instead, liberal/black America has decided to take the approach of blaming ALL cops for the actions of few, driving more out, keeping more good cops from even applying in the first place, and leading to even shittier candidates getting employed.
Yay
I hope you see the irony in this. You criticize one group for generalizing about all cops but then you paint with a broad brush yourself by referencing liberals and blacks as if all liberals and all blacks have taken the approach you assert they have taken.
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