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re: What is up with LA Fire in New Orleans?

Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:44 pm to
Must have some $ in that area!
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:59 pm to
They are connected with a program in Birmingham. No way dues or coaching fees would ever pay for that place. Property was probably donated, but damn the fields and the gym are nice.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:02 pm to
So who do you all think pulls more from the big clubs (BRSC and LA Fire) between Orlando’s Gulf South Texans and Julio’s New Orleans Dynamos?
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:54 am to
Likely Julio, much stronger ties to the area and teams will be able to play in LCSL right away. Most of the coaches that he was close to are not at the Fire anymore so I don't see wholesale teams changing clubs outside of the odd one or two.

He will pull some of the disgruntled parents/kids who are on lower teams and some of the Hispanic community. He is not a bad coach or administrator, he just got lazy and that bit him in the butt at the Fire.

The funny thing is that his target market is going to be the hispanic market...which he failed to engage while at the Fire (and was responsible for). That failure gave rise to the Montagua, Jambalaya, and White Star clubs so it is a more crowded market now.

They will likely have very poor competitive teams for awhile and he will have to engage the younger age groups to grow a stronger competitive program.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:36 pm to
Makes sense.

Being in LCSL right away should give NO Dynamos an advantage.
Posted by 6pack
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

The funny thing is that his target market is going to be the hispanic market...which he failed to engage while at the Fire (and was responsible for). That failure gave rise to the Montagua, Jambalaya, and White Star clubs so it is a more crowded market now.


I disagree. The reason why Julio couldn’t get a strong footing in the Latin community of Kenner and Metairie was because the Fire Board wouldn’t let him make progress there. The Fire is run by all Jesuit alums and the current entire Jesuit soccer coaching staff. Making money and stockpiling boys on the Jesuit soccer program is their main focus. Julio and the Latin American community is not who or what they care about. Hence the rise Motagua, White Stars, JPSA and Jambalaya.
Posted by vistajay
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:57 pm to
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The reason why Julio couldn’t get a strong footing in the Latin community of Kenner and Metairie was because the Fire Board wouldn’t let him make progress there. The Fire is run by all Jesuit alums and the current entire Jesuit soccer coaching staff. Making money and stockpiling boys on the Jesuit soccer program is their main focus. Julio and the Latin American community is not who or what they care about. Hence the rise Motagua, White Stars, JPSA and Jambalaya.


Yes the remaining director after Julio and Louie left is the Jesuit coach, but the rest of your premise is false. There are kids from almost every NOLA area school at Fire. The Lafreniere campus was never a big Jesuit feeder.
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:45 pm to
There is a big presence for most high schools in the city at the Fire. Jesuit, because of Hubie, does have a large presence as well as Holy Cross.

The Fire board was the one that tasked Julio with rebuilding the numbers in the Latin community at the Kenner, Metairie and West Bank Campuses. That was what he brought to the table in the original merger of the clubs. They certainly weren't holding him back in that regard.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:17 am to
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They ousted out long time co-director Julio Paiz and Hubie took over as solo head of the club (about a year ago) Not really sure about people leaving but coaching turnover has been high for 25+ years


Yea and Hubie successfully ran Lakeview for a long time, so I don't see why putting him in charge would change things so dramatically
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 7:52 pm to
What are the losses to NO Dynamo looking?
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:45 am to
I need to look into the Dynamo. My son switched clubs last year to play in the middle with really good/smart player...but he’s been offered a couple of spots in Europe to play. My son can play the middle by himself, but they just won’t be as competitive as the regional leagues require. He’s got offers to play up a year by a club just north and he can go back to his previous team, coach called last night...but IDK. Football season makes it tough to make practices, especially if they’re an hour away.

If his school wasn’t so strange about sports I’d tell him to simply focus on kicking and punting...but they may let someone play ahead of him because they give more money or show up to more activities. If he ranks high at the camps next summer there’ll be some tough decisions to make.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:48 am to
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My son switched clubs last year to play in the middle with really good/smart player...but he’s been offered a couple of spots in Europe to play.

Does he have a European passport or can he get one? And what clubs have offered him?
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:16 am to
The Dynamo in New Orleans are not going to be competitive for a long time, if ever. I would not consider them if you are looking for regional level competition.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:54 am to
He’s working through that now. IDK the clubs, but in Denmark and Germany. They’d prefer Denmark, but either one right now. I think he’s mostly fine, his mom is trying to move with him and that is iffy right now.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:59 am to
I’d love to take him to the Mandeville tryouts just to see what they say...with zero pull or no one knowing who he is.

It’s an hour to HFC, an hour to NOLA, and an hour to Mandeville...
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:52 pm to
What age group is he? Mandeville teams on the boys side are pretty good at the 04s and up, average at 05, and weak at 06 and 07.

Usually easier to break onto a top team from outside a club than inside.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:26 pm to
He’s ‘06.

He’s played their ‘05 team before and really appreciated their style of play.
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:55 pm to
Yes, I think that the 05s would be the way to go. The 06s are not a quality team.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:08 pm to
Hard to believe they aren’t quality, maybe they just need a weapon they can count on.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:26 pm to
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It’s an hour to HFC, an hour to NOLA, and an hour to Mandeville...



We have to go 15 mins and don’t want to have to drive 30 mins for a bigger club at same level.
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