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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:18 am to UPT
quote:are they all supposed to be the same? i guess god didn't get the "creator's manual."
Why is his plan for my life so much different than his plan is for a man my age in Mogadishu?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:19 am to UPT
quote:sure. why not?
Is it logical to you?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:20 am to lsaltee
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It just seems like the most powerful being/creator could have come up with something better.
Agreed, this is the same God who knit together a child in his mothers womb knowing that in a few years he'd send his holy spirit to kill him because the Pharaoh wouldn't let the Hebrews go.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:22 am to Azkiger
quote:he had every opportunity to reject jesus but didn't.
I don't think Saul cried out to the creator before he was blinded and became Paul
maybe you're insinuating that, taking christianity/the bible at face value, it seems god favors some over others. everyone has a different path. is that wrong?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:22 am to lsaltee
quote:define "better"
It just seems like the most powerful being/creator could have come up with something better.
here comes the gobbledygook
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:22 am to lsaltee
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The same way you "know" god has a plan.
It just seems like the most powerful being/creator could have come up with something better.
This is the second time you have spoken as if you know all that others know or why they arrive at their decisions. I think it is a mistake to assume you have that knowledge.
So far you have said you feel like he should have made a better plan. How are you going about judging his plan as good or bad or mediocre given our vantage point and our many limitations? For example, if you had all the attributes of God, is it not possible you might feel very differently about the quality of his plan?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:25 am to TCUFan
Odin has a plan for me in Valhalla.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:25 am to Azkiger
quote:your characterization is hilarious. god reaches people in different ways. is that wrong?
And God interfered with his life without prompting even though he didn't cry out to him
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:26 am to Azkiger
quote:Pharaoh had every chance in the world to repent. he didn't. how is that god's fault?
this is the same God who knit together a child in his mothers womb knowing that in a few years he'd send his holy spirit to kill him because the Pharaoh wouldn't let the Hebrews go
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:28 am to The Maj
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He never promised this life would be easy or the road would be without peril... Some will receive their reward on this earth and others will receive their reward in eternity...
Do you even realize how easy this is to say coming from suburban USA? How much of the world have you seen?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:30 am to bfniii
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he had every opportunity to reject jesus but didn't.
maybe you're insinuating that, taking christianity/the bible at face value, it seems god favors some over others. everyone has a different path. is that wrong?
I'm suggesting that the claim that God only reaches out to people who cry out to him isn't consistent with the Bible.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:32 am to bfniii
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Pharaoh had every chance in the world to repent. he didn't. how is that god's fault?
... Because God killed the children and not Pharaoh?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:32 am to FATBOY TIGER
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Odin has a plan for me in Valhalla.
Odin isn't a god despite what Marvel might say. Odin died and was buried. He also lost his eye and couldn't grow back another. I believe a lot of these pagan gods were in fact warrior kings who before or after they died were deified by their people. But as the early Christians would ask the pagans then, "why follow someone as a god when you know their bones are buried over there?"
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:36 am to lsaltee
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It just seems like the most powerful being/creator could have come up with something better.
Here is what some of you don't understand...God gave a huge gift to mankind called free will. In that mankind has taken liberties with it and fouled it up, in no way intimates that God is any less powerful or has any less of a plan for each of us to go by. Even the angels were not blessed with free will, I feel strongly this is what let to the original falling away as man, being made directly in God's image along with things which accompanied this such as free will, was set on a higher plane than the angels in that regard thus jealousy crept in and the rest is history.
So that said. just because not all men subscribe to the plan God wishes for them does not prove the plan doesn't exist. God wishes that none perish, in particular perish in their sins, but part of the wonderful gift of each of us being our own moral agents is that he will absolutely not force his will on anyone. That right there is a loving God, not even touching on his plan of salvation we can each choose to partake in as well.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:39 am to UPT
quote:curious to know your take on the growing christian church in africa and china as opposed to the diminishing church numbers in europe and america
Do you even realize how easy this is to say coming from suburban USA? How much of the world have you seen?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:39 am to UPT
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How much of the world have you seen?
Plenty... not really going to get into the I have probably seen more than you argument... but I have seen some of the worst places on the face of this planet and I have seen pure evil and horrors and things that made me question why God allows such to happen... So, you really failed here with your "gotcha", like miserably failed...
I am human, I also question why God was willing to send His Son to die a horrible death on a cross for a sinner such as myself...
So, yes, I know and yes I have seen and yes, I scoff at people that lament the "poor" plight of those that live in this country that do not even realize compared to the world's standards they are not even close to poor...
BTW, I have been to Mogadishu and the HOA twice...
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:40 am to Crimson1st
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Here is what some of you don't understand...God gave a huge gift to mankind called free will.
That doesn't cover all gratuitous evil, like birth defects, natural disasters, etc.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:42 am to bfniii
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curious to know your take on the growing christian church in africa and china as opposed to the diminishing church numbers in europe and america
As a general rule, religion spreads in lower educated communities and diminishes in higher educated communities. The trend you highlighted is expected imo.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:42 am to Azkiger
quote:i'm pretty sure pharoah died.
Because God killed the children and not Pharaoh?
egyptian children dying is a totally separate issue. is god immoral for allowing any children to die? what age is god required to allow people to live to?
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