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Antibodies ...why are they not getting any love?

Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:24 am
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:24 am
If antibody testing clearly indicates that you have had coronavirus why are the numbers not being included in the majority of Covid19 statistics ?

Sample testing is a long accepted form of research analysis. Both New York and California have clearly indicated that the infected numbers far surpass the advertised infected rate. (Estimates of 30-80 times current infection numbers)

Unless you’re going to test everyone every day for active Covid cultures that test seems useless. Data extrapolated from antibody testing seems much more poignant and useful at this stage of the game.

I can understand why CNN and MSNBC would not be pushing this theory as it would undoubtedly settle people’s fears but Fox and OAN should be giving this more attention.

Or am I just missing something? I’ll hang up and listen. Thanks.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78964 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:27 am to
Because they are not accurate yet and one can test positive if they've had previous corona viruses?
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10938 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:28 am to
Are they accurate?
How many strains of this are there?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
130130 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:30 am to
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Because they are not accurate yet and one can test positive if they've had previous corona viruses?



False

Abbott test 99% sensitive and specific for wuhan coronavirus
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71598 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:30 am to
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How many strains of this are there?



So you think I could get whuflu and recover and then get another whuflu or many? I be dead.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62481 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:35 am to
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Because they are not accurate yet and one can test positive if they've had previous corona viruses?



Does this hold true at the macro level?

Unless you are saying the tests aren't close to accurate, it's impossible to think that we wouldn't get a clearer picture of how many have been infected.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78964 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:35 am to
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Abbott test 99% sensitive and specific for wuhan coronavirus
Thats good to know, thanks.

But, I wasn't totally wrong. Those Abbott tests didn't start shipping out until the very end of April.

Now I'll be on the lookout for Big Pharma consiracies related to this.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 11:41 am
Posted by Man With A Plan
Member since Nov 2019
899 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:37 am to
Because it's all a hoax, and people sitting at home not working need to be arrested for being a lazy bum and not contributing to society.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84134 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:39 am to
I’m going to get an annual physical in the next few weeks and considering of asking for it.

I’m assuming a normal doctors visit can do this?


Had what the doc said was Bronchitis back in early March. I thought it was a really bad sinus infection plus ear infection and then rattle with deep breaths. She didn’t want to do covid test, but I’d like to know
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:55 am to
As an asymptomatic person I would much rather have the antibody test instead of the Covid19 test.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 12:27 pm to
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Sample testing is a long accepted form of research analysis.


When done correctly, sure.
Posted by corneredbeast
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 12:31 pm to
Because truth would dilute the fear pushed by the left?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Because they are not accurate yet and one can test positive if they've had previous corona viruses?

They are accurate enough for 2 highly regarded Stanford MD/researchers to conduct ground-breaking studies with them.

Antibody tests are not accurate enough to guarantee individual immunity. But plenty accurate enough to get an accurate reading of antibodies in large samples - like 1000+

And antibody testing destroys the moronic narratives from the left.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 12:40 pm to
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hey are accurate enough for 2 highly regarded Stanford MD/researchers to conduct ground-breaking studies with them.


Which studies were those?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Which studies were those?


You are clueless as to the recent Stanford antibody studies?

And yet you post a giggling emoji? frick off.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 1:08 pm to
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When done correctly, sure.


Were the Stanford and NY tests done incorrectly? Both claim random sampling.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Were the Stanford and NY tests done incorrectly? Both claim random sampling.

Not sure about the NY tests.

I believe the Stanford tests state "randomized" sampling. i.e. weighting of some of the subjects so as not to use too much data from higher income areas.

John P. A. Ioannidis, a professor of medicine and epidemiology is one of the leaders of the Stanford studies. I have confidence in the doc's ability to navigate through statistical challenges in designing and implementing the study as Dr Ionnidis is also a professor of statistics at Stanford.

Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22011 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Antibodies ...why are they not getting any love?
if it doesn't create more fear it's not important
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22011 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Estimates of 30-80 times current infection numbers
factor of 30 would put covid just over 2x the cmr of flu, factor of 80 would make it less deadly than flu on a case by case basis. But we of course need to stay closed at least till the election
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:42 pm to
Factor of 30 and accurate numbers of how many people actually died "from" Covid instead of "with" Covid and IT IS the flu.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 3:44 pm
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