re: 7,890 deaths in NYC as of this morning. How many w/o underlying conditions?

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.091% out of total population of 8.7MM

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Probably more like .05 if you take the cookin’ out of the books (people who were critically ill and caught the virus).

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I’m into whatever the debate is at the moment. And it doesn’t help the “is it worth it” argument to quote Candace and her idiocy.

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What are you talking about?

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I’m sure buckeye was talking about the discussion here. A 70 year old dies, “they were gonna die tomorrow anyway! They were 70 fer chrissakes!!”

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Exactly. Or they might add something like “o they had hypertension,” as if that’s some abnormal phenomenon at that age that is a death sentence with no medicine to keep it under control.

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Probably more like .05 if you take the cookin’ out of the books (people who were critically ill and caught the virus).

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Drop it to .015% if they had closed the subways.

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Sure. Mortality rates are all the same regardless of age and health. How did I not know that?

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That's not what I said. It's this type of back and forth strawman "debate" that is the problem.

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Since you clearly have little understanding of this topic...

There are significantly more adults with HTN NOT caused by their own decisions, than say obesity. Not to mention, an individual who has HTN but has it controlled with medication (or in mild cases just dietary changes), still has the diagnosis of HTN. Once you lose weight, you are no longer obese.

As someone mentioned earlier, HTN should be stratified in order to accurately determine its significance as a risk factor for mortality. And as I am mentioning now, an individual does not have equal control over developing these particular comorbidities, like you clearly believe.

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This is a month old so it may have changed given how fluid the "science of C-19" is. But from 3/20 -

The coronavirus is especially dangerous for older people and people with other health problems, such as diabetes, heart disease and weak immune systems.

But are people who only have high blood pressure also in greater peril?

It's an important question because one out of every three Americans has this condition, which is also known as hypertension.

The short answer appears to be: People with high blood pressure may be at increased risk, especially if it's not under control and they have other health problems. But if their blood pressure is under control and they don't have other risk factors, they probably are not at any greater peril, experts say.

"It does not make a lot of sense that if somebody is otherwise healthy and young and they have hypertension alone, that they should be at increased risk," says Dr. Mariell Jessup, chief science and medical officer at the American Heart Association.

.000004827 per cent of people who died in NYC without an underlying condition from covid 19. Can a reasonable person tell me why we should not open the good ole USA

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.000004827 per cent of people who died in NYC without an underlying condition from covid 19. Can a reasonable person tell me why we should not open the good ole USA

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For one thing, your percentage is wrong by two orders of magnitude. Fully 100X error. An error of 10,000%, in other words.

Second, you are ignoring the 2k people for whom the underlying conditions are unknown. This means that your calculation could be wrong by up to 450,000%.

Third, you are severely underestimating the number of people who have underlying conditions. What percentage of people do you think are in perfect health?


So if you want to have a reasonable discussion, maybe start by being reasonable yourself.

Sorry I used liberal models. I know they are always wrong, so my bad. Do you get the humor about lib's models.