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re: USS Roosevelt Whats you Guy's Take?

Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by PnG4ever
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2020
103 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:31 pm to
I am a shipyard electrician who helped put the USS Fitzgerald back together. I worked side by side with the sailors who were on board during the collision. Seeing how the Navy treated them before and after the incident this is my take.

1. You don’t become a captain of a carrier by being an idiot. There is no way he didn’t know he’d be canned by letting that email out. This couldn’t have been the first time he asked for help. It might have been his last resort.

2. The Navy let this be a security issue by not taking care of this before it became public. The Navy knew the crew of the Fitz were over worked and continued to deny extended port time. We had so much equipment to repair that had nothing to do with the collision because the crew couldn’t stay in port long enough to make repairs.

3. The big shocker for me:
The Navy could care less about personnel! Not only did they keep the same crew members on a ship that these kids had to watch their shipmates die (they had to close the hatch of a berthing that still had sailors in or the flooding would have reached main deck) but ignored sailors having emotional problems.
Their answer was “if you have a problem tell us”. The ones that did were medically discharged. We lost a young man 3 weeks ago from suicide. Great young man who was suffering. AND THE NAVY KNEW IT!
The Fitz is about to go out and he couldn’t deal with being back to sea on it.

I’m ex Air Force (85-91). There is no way any of us would have been put in that situation. Not a single sailor who was in the collision should ever set foot in that ship again.

So until more info comes out I’m going with past performance of big Navy. They dropped the ball.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31141 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:46 pm to
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I hate to be a dick


Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1596 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:53 pm to
We can’t make a judgement call without knowing the background information. If he went through proper channels and was rebuffed then I think his actions were ok.
When I was an O-1 we had a piece of classified equipment that we couldn’t get fixed, the CO told me to CASREP it and we would have it fixed in a day. Which it was.
The CO then told me he CASREPed his whole squadron before and the DOD responded immediately and fixed the situation.
Posted by FlipNDipN
Marietta, OH (ES LPT)
Member since Jan 2015
573 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Leyte Gulf? I had forgotten about that but when I searched it kinda remember that incident. I was already out by 2 yrs or so. I can't imagine a wtf moment like that.


That is correct. It was one hell of an experience. Especially when they sounded the chemical alarm instead of the collision alarm.

OBTW - thank you for your service.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37807 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:50 am to
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If Acting Naval Sec Modly, is not asked to step down I will be shocked.


He has already stepped down
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42599 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:51 am to
The military doesn't give a frick about its soldiers. Props to Crozier for standing up for his sailors
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6832 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:51 am to
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Sailor suits are ghey looking


Tell that to a sailor face to face.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 10:52 am
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