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the doomsayers can’t ever be wrong because they can always fall back on “well you followed our guidelines amazingly and that’s why we had less deaths than projected”

This works the exact same way for all you deniers. None of you will ever admit that the guidelines helped and you will cry nothing burger for the rest of your life.

The fact is we will never really know what an alternate reality would have brought.

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Posted by Flats

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Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:47 pm to DallasTiger11

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The fact is we will never really know what an alternate reality would have brought.

What we will know at the end of the year is the number of deaths and an estimate of how much our measures cost in both economic damages and outright money printing. I suspect they’re going to be way out of proportion, but that question will get answered.

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Posted by TenWheelsForJesus

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Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:25 am to DallasTiger11

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This works the exact same way for all you deniers. None of you will ever admit that the guidelines helped and you will cry nothing burger for the rest of your life.

Of course encouraging people to stay at home reduces the spread. That's not the point. The point is it worth it? Is saving a few thousand lives worth millions losing their jobs? Is saving a few thousand lives worth several million losing their retirement? No, it is not.

One person I know lost so much during the 2008-2009 collapse that he had to work another 10 years to make it up. What do you think the effect of a 30% decline in the market will cause?

People are already bitching that boomers are not retiring and keeping a lot of good jobs. Those same people are also some of the loudest screamers about shutting down business now to protect against an overblown virus. What will the result be? It will cause many older people whose retirements are based on the market to keep working. The idiots crying about how deadly this virus is are unable to see past the one variable. They are refusing to even consider the cost of the overreaction.

All the dumb people whining about how people aren't willingly destroying their livelihoods because of a stupid virus will be the loudest complainers when they finally have to face the consequences of their cries.

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Posted by TigerDoc

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Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:53 pm to DallasTiger11

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The fact is we will never really know what an alternate reality would have brought.

In the macro sense, sure, but there's about to be a whole cottage industry of national & regional comparisons with regard outcomes vs. what guidelines were implemented and when in the public health literature. They'll draw conclusions that we'll ignore for years to come.