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ROKU & NFLX (and SHOP)

Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:45 pm
haven’t seen a whole lot of recent discussion about these.
anyone got an opinion?

I did well today i may take a swing at ROKU in the morning
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 4:55 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Martin said there are at least three reasons she likes Roku more than Netflix.

She said Roku is a better value trading at 6.2 times enterprise value/revenue compared to 7.8 times for Netflix.

She said Roku’s balance sheet is superior to Netflix’s in a time of uncertainty in the credit markets. Roku has $100 million in debt, $500 million in cash and annual EBITDA of at least $32 million in each of the past two years. Netflix has $15 billion in debt, $5 billion in cash and Needham is projecting between $2 billion and $4 billion in negative free cash flow in 2020.

Finally, Martin said Roku is benefitting much more than Netflix from the coronavirus quarantine. Quarantined Americans are certainly using both services from home. However, Roku’s advertising-based model is benefitting from usage increases, while Netflix’s subscription-based model is not tied to viewing hours.

“Although hours streamed are growing during COVID-19, we prefer Roku, which has a volume-based revenue model (ie, advertising CPMs) based on viewing time rather than NFLX, which charges the same price regardless of hours viewed,” Martin wrote in a note.

Benzinga’s Take For Netflix to benefit from the quarantine, it would need the outbreak to drive subscription growth rather than additional viewing hours from existing subscribers. Given the financial uncertainty in the U.S. at the moment, many Americans may be hesitant to add on another paid subscription service, even if it costs just $12.99 per month.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 1:29 pm to
daily high on NFLX
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 1:47 pm to
Although I lightened my position by 2/3 about a year ago for portfolio allocation reasons, I'm still holding NFLX. I've been long for several years and it's been good to me. It's held up very well through the carnage, but their debt and cash burn do concern me. I've been selling covered calls around the $400 level for quite some time. So I'm content to let it go around that price. Either it gets there and leaves me, or I keep collecting healthy "dividends" by way of the call premiums.

As for ROKU, I've traded options on it quite a bit over the past couple of years. I owned the stock for maybe a year some time back. Longer term, I have a generally good feeling about it - mainly because of their successful penetration into the OEM TV market and their ad based revenue model. I have not studied their financials though.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 3:33 pm to
big finish for both stocks today
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:02 pm to
did really well in both of these today.
SHOP also

buy the dips
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:50 pm to
new 52 week high for NFLX today.
ROKU ended the day up as well

and SHOP made a nice run up to 450.

great day
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:53 pm to
ROKU over 100 and over the 50 day moving average after hours trading. Should jump tomorrow

$$$

I’m up 17% on ROKU, 18% on SHOP and 21% on NFLX

This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 4:57 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:26 pm to
Have a lot of ROKU between 139 and 59 all purchased between Feb 1st and March 17th. What a wild spread .
90 cost basis
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46198 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:30 pm to
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Have a lot of ROKU

I think you are going to be happy tomorrow.
I’m in at 89
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:09 pm to
tried to buy more ROKU this morning but the money didnt make it into my brokage account today . order got declined
I bought 50 shares @ 82 about 2 weeks ago. if i buy 50 more tommorrow @105 then my avg share price for 100 shares would be like 94 correct? i think thats how it works I will see what the futures looks like in the morning
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:11 pm to
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Roku shares rose more than 9% after-hours Monday after the company said it expects Q1 revenue to be slightly higher than expected in its prior outlook, and still expects strong growth in active accounts and streaming hours as consumers are home amid shelter-in-place orders to meant slow the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic .
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4924 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:57 pm to
Bought some ROKU 100 calls about 5 mins from the bell this afternoon... feeling nice about that.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
46198 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 6:55 am to
ROKU at 110 AH
NFLX at 400 AH
SHOP at 465 AH

let’s go!
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 7:54 am to
Good call on these. Wish I would have participated.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
46198 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:59 am to
sold SHOP at 485, up 21% ($100/share)
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:18 am to
check out TSLA. I opened a vertical call spread 725/750 at the open today expiring friday. Almost to 750 now

Hope it closes above 750 friday. 300% if so.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
46198 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:30 am to
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vertical call spread

waaaay above my pay grade!
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:34 am to
bought 200 more ROKU at 105...volume is heating up
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:36 am to
Earnings next month will be wild.
ROKU always moves bigly on earnings
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