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re: Car Insurance - "What is your claim worth"?

Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Verbal Kent
Member since Aug 2013
114 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:18 pm to
There are so many things incorrect in your post. Insurance companies do not pay jackpots. The claims and injuries have to properly documented and settlements usually fall in a range of values based upon the injury sustained. Frivolous lawsuits get dismissed. I turn down lots of them.

Regarding tort reform, reducing the amount recovered by injured persons will only result in increasing insurance company profit. When an amendment was proposed that insurance companies automatically reduced premiums by 10% if the tort reform package was passed, the insurance companies balked. Why? Because it is all about profit.

Moreover, the insurance companies admitted in committee that the tort reform measures would not result in a reduction of premiums and that the reasons Louisiana had higher insurance premiums included-the quality of our roads, the large number of uninsured motorists (which results in more claims made by people who are insured against their own policy for property damage), the fact that our minimal limits are 15K which is the lowest in the country and that there are more single and poor people in Louisiana (which their actuaries place a higher risk of being in an accident), and unenforced distracted driving laws. It is so much more complicated than taking away access to the courts for people who have been damaged by distracted or negligent drivers.

Imagine if the "reforms" had passed and you got in a car wreck and your property damage was more than 5k, there is NOTHING to stop an insurance company from denying the claim, even though they are at fault, and require you to wait three years and spend several thousand dollars to go before a jury trial. Most people would give up and not pursue it because the cost benefit analysis says it is not worth it. And guess what, insurance company profits go up.

I ask you, lets say you make a product, and you can pass legislation that makes it cheaper for you to make the same product, do you pass on the savings to the consumer, or do you put more money in your pocket? Insurance companies will just put more money in their pocket and your rights to recover have been curtailed in the event that you are wronged.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:22 pm to
Increased funding for the judiciary from the general fund needs to be attached to any bill lowering the threshold. It’s asinine to say we’re going to increase the volume of jury trials but not increase the ability of the courts to handle them.

Unless that’s what LABI is really angling for??
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10219 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Verbal Kent


GTFO of here with your facts, logic and reason.

All kidding aside, this is probably the most accurate post on tort reform and the purported lowering of insurance premiums to grace the OT.
Posted by 2tigergo
Member since Jan 2013
201 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Regarding tort reform, reducing the amount recovered by injured persons will only result in increasing insurance company profit. When an amendment was proposed that insurance companies automatically reduced premiums by 10% if the tort reform package was passed, the insurance companies balked. Why? Because it is all about profit.


If there would be a limit on attorney profits, or an agency regulating the fees that attorneys can charge, I would take your statement more seriously.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 12:48 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 3:17 pm to
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I ask you, lets say you make a product, and you can pass legislation that makes it cheaper for you to make the same product, do you pass on the savings to the consumer, or do you put more money in your pocket? Insurance companies will just put more money in their pocket and your rights to recover have been curtailed in the event that you are wronged.


I understand the insurance company doesn't want to pay claims as that dips into their profit. I addressed that in my OP.

How is it the other 49 states have figured this out, and we haven't?

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-the quality of our roads,


There are crappy roads all over

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the large number of uninsured motorists (which results in more claims made by people who are insured against their own policy for property damage),


Well, having the highest premiums in the country probably causes a large number of uninsured motorists, don't you think?

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the fact that our minimal limits are 15K which is the lowest in the country


I'm fine raising them. Why haven't we?

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and that there are more single and poor people in Louisiana (which their actuaries place a higher risk of being in an accident),


There is a lot of states with poor people that have lower rates than us.

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unenforced distracted driving laws


Are they less unenforced than other places? Seems like I'm always reading stories all over the country about accidents involving distracted driving.

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Frivolous lawsuits get dismissed. I turn down lots of them.


Look, I'm sure people like you and Boosie are good people who are really trying to help others. But there is a ton of pine scum in your industry, and y'all, as an industry, refuse to deal with it.

Police your own, and then get back to us.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 3:25 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Verbal Kent


quote:

the fact that our minimal limits are 15K which is the lowest in the country


LINK

Well let's see...

We have according to this, 15/30/25

Bodily injury per person, no one has less than us, but 4 other states are at 15. Hell, Florida and NH don't require it at all!

Body injury per accident... at 30, again, no one less than us, 4 states are the same, at 30. Arizona, California, NJ, PA.

Now, property damage... we are at 25... we actually have a much higher level than a lot of states.

So... 4 states have same low bodily injury mins like we do. We have the 2nd highest cost of coverage.

How do the others rank:

LINK

CA - 6th (with a much higher cost of living... their insurance is cheaper... hmmm)

NJ - 20th (again, higher cost of living, lots of urban areas)

AZ - 22nd

PA - 38th (with one of the largest crapholes in the country, Philly, and an area hit hard by the changing economy, Pittsburg)

Verbal Kent, we aren't doing too well with your reasons here, are we?



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