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re: Major national med school test changes from a score to pass/fail

Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:34 am to
step 1 had turned into this monster that made the first 2 years almost irrelevant.

peruse any med student forum and youll see M1 and M2s wishing they didnt have any classes to study for and could just dedicate time to studying specifically for step 1 using specific step 1 materials.

a lot said their classes were a waste of time and theyd be better served if their first 2 years just used step 1 material.

not saying its right or wrong but thats the logic in this.

I don't know what theyre going to use to differentiate students for residencies now, though, other than extracurriculars and gpa.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 7:35 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:38 am to
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I don't know what theyre going to use to differentiate students for residencies now, though, other than extracurriculars and gpa.



I'm sort of thankful I'm taking it in 2021.

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peruse any med student forum and youll see M1 and M2s wishing they didnt have any classes to study for and could just dedicate time to studying specifically for step 1 using specific step 1 materials.



Pretty much the main complaint.
Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1992 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:32 am to
Moreover, foreign programs do teach to the step 1 and those students get higher scores simply to compete in the residency match
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:20 pm to
quote:


step 1 had turned into this monster that made the first 2 years almost irrelevant.

peruse any med student forum and youll see M1 and M2s wishing they didnt have any classes to study for and could just dedicate time to studying specifically for step 1 using specific step 1 materials.

a lot said their classes were a waste of time and theyd be better served if their first 2 years just used step 1 material.

not saying its right or wrong but thats the logic in this.



I hear you. But as med schools increasingly move towards pass/fail (my med school did give out a grade until 3rd year rotations), there’s got to be some way to differentiate candidates, at least somewhat. Love them or hate them, standardized tests are a part of life.

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I don't know what theyre going to use to differentiate students for residencies now, though, other than extracurriculars and gpa.


Probably step 2. Unintended consequences.

Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3642 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 6:13 pm to
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I don't know what theyre going to use to differentiate students for residencies now, though, other than extracurriculars and gpa


How about audition rotations and interviews? Having step 1 be pass/fail is not going to be a big deal.
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