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Question: Why can't Trump send the Marines to protect the border?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:08 pm
He's the commander-in-chief. Surely we have enough man power in the Middle East with the Army and Air Force.
The Marines are perfectly capable of doing border patrol should the need arises. Who is against this? We don't even need a new spending bill because we have plenty of soldiers stationed at comfortable bases that have been tamed for over 40 years (Germany, Japan, etc.).
The Marines are perfectly capable of doing border patrol should the need arises. Who is against this? We don't even need a new spending bill because we have plenty of soldiers stationed at comfortable bases that have been tamed for over 40 years (Germany, Japan, etc.).
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:09 pm to volod
Posse Comitatus
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:10 pm to volod
Posse Comitatus Act
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:11 pm to Centinel
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Centinel
You beat me because you know how to spell and I had to look it up!
#WhitePrivilege
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:11 pm to volod
That’s not what the Marines are for.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:12 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
You beat me because you know how to spell and I had to look it up!
#WhitePrivilege
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:12 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
because the Marines are warriors, not police, the marines are sent in to kill.... not be nice...
this is stupid op
this is stupid op
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:12 pm to Centinel
I would think Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply to border protection.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:16 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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PC only applies to the Army and Air Force, not Navy and Marine Corps.
And the Department of the Navy follows the Act as a matter of policy.
Title 10 also places further restrictions on all branches of the military when conducing operations on US soil. These restrictions would specifically limit the Marines from doing what volod is suggesting.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:19 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
I don't believe the Marines are mentioned in the Posse Comitatus Act.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:19 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posse Comitatus Act
I must admit I was previously unaware of this act. It’s also an instant debunk of the left’s dream of using military force to one day disarm the populace.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:21 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I would think Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply to border protection.
Of course it wouldnt what are these people saying?
That if the US is invaded we can't actually defend the country because that means active military is inside the borders?
Laugh my arse off
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:22 pm to YF12
back before WW2, the Cavalry patrolled the Mexican border.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:23 pm to YF12
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Of course it wouldnt what are these people saying?
It most certainly applies to border protection. We are not at war with anyone on our border. Border protection is provided by state, federal, and local law enforcement, along with National Guard units when appropriate under Title 32.
If at such time we declare war with Canada or Mexico, Posse Comitatus would cease to apply.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:24 pm to Centinel
The Coast Guard is an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act.Seems to me the Marine Corps could be used to protect our border as a threat to our national security.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:24 pm to Centinel
Posse Commitatus
I didn't know this existed. And even in the act itself, it doesn't explicitly mention Navy or maritime units.
I'm sure there is a provision and incentive for the Marines to follow it regardless. It just seems like such a waste of manpower to not use them.
I didn't know this existed. And even in the act itself, it doesn't explicitly mention Navy or maritime units.
I'm sure there is a provision and incentive for the Marines to follow it regardless. It just seems like such a waste of manpower to not use them.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:26 pm to volod
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I'm sure there is a provision and incentive for the Marines to follow it regardless.
There is. See my previous post.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:26 pm to YF12
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Of course it wouldnt what are these people saying?
That if the US is invaded we can't actually defend the country because that means active military is inside the borders?
Laugh my arse off
Defending the country is NOT the same as enforcing its laws.
yeah..yeah.."but, muh INVASION and shite!". Not the same thing and only a disingenuous asshat will insist that it is.
If the Mexican MILITARY were lining up at the border to inflict damage / invade the U.S., then pc does not apply. That is not a "law enforcement" issue. It is National Defense in its most direct.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:27 pm to Sev09
Why would the Posse Comitatus Act override Article II Section 2 of the Constitution?
Is he the Commander in Chief of the Army Navy and Militia or not?
Congress has passed laws limiting them on our soil but wouldn’t that be up to the president? What’s the purpose of being the Chief of the Militia of the states if they can’t be put forth on our soil?
By the way I think there is precedence that the Air Force is considered part of the Army and the Marines are part of the Navy for purposes of constitutional law.
Is he the Commander in Chief of the Army Navy and Militia or not?
Congress has passed laws limiting them on our soil but wouldn’t that be up to the president? What’s the purpose of being the Chief of the Militia of the states if they can’t be put forth on our soil?
By the way I think there is precedence that the Air Force is considered part of the Army and the Marines are part of the Navy for purposes of constitutional law.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:31 pm to volod
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it doesn't explicitly mention Navy or maritime units.
That is because it was not conceived that a NAVY would be doing the job not on the coasts and at sea. But, as has been explained, it is reasonably inferred as to apply to them as well.
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