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re: 'Birds of Prey' bombs at the box office — and feminists are blaming sexism

Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:32 pm to
Finally got around to seeing the movie and I was right on the money in my earlier assessment.

First off, the synopsis for you tl;dr folks: this movie came across as a 2nd rate attempt at being a lesser, female version of Deadpool.

What killed this movie was the writing. The story moved far too fast and the character development fell flat. Margo does a great job as Harley but it just wasn't enough. At the very least they should have written her character as more ditzy and lucky, the balance they were trying to strike between adorably crazy, psychotic killer and (anti?) heroine never really seemed to work.

Another problem with this movie is (as I mentioned in another post) they are taking a genre that appeals far more to males than females and tried to hammer that square peg of genre appeal into the round hole of female enjoyment (:rimshot:).

Surprisingly the one place the writing did work was in getting the all-female group together. The story of how the team of only females came about didn't beat you over the head with it's blatant feminism...



...or that they are there simply because uterus...



...but rather instead it laid out a scenario where it made sense that these particular characters, who only happen to be female, all have to come together. Now if you expand beyond that to the fact that almost every female character in the movie is where they are because they are a victim of some man's assholery, then you can easily begin to see definite markings of Ovarian Power with just a light drizzle of #MeToo. This is especially prevalent in the fight scenes where all the people they fight against are men and they seem to easily beat all their asses. Strangely though, it didn't have the feel of being the over-whelming story of the movie, just some ancillary aspects.

Or maybe... the writing was so bad that they couldn't even properly nauseate the audience with their overwhelming Estro-fest?

Whatever the reason, the ManBad/WomanGood theme never really fully developed (which I consider a good thing) but neither did much else. All-in-all I would have been better off buying scratch-offs with my $12.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 10:32 pm to
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the fact that almost every female character in the movie is where they are because they are a victim of some man's assholery

That’s a stretch. Perez is the only one singled out by men because of her sex. Canary and the kid get into their own trouble, Huntress is a wash (evil and good men in her origin), Harley and Joker aren’t your typical wronged woman scenario.

The a-hole men in these origins are less prevalent than Joe Chill killing Batman’s parents or the male science council members forbidding Jor-el from saving his family. Let’s face it, the average bad guy is male, especially when it comes to the origin of the hero.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 10:51 pm to
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Now if you expand beyond that to the fact that almost every female character in the movie is where they are because they are a victim of some man's assholery,

They're all connected because of one man who is a mob boss not that hard to understand
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they fight against are men and they seem to easily beat all their asses.

Harley I believe has slightly enhanced strength and reflexes as well as being extremely experienced in hand to hand combat. Although it's obvious she can't take massively large men such as one scene in particular. Most of her work is done with a bat or mallet

Huntress is a trained assassin and Black Canary obviously has powers although it's never stated if she has enhanced strength

I'll give you Montoya though
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ManBad/WomanGood theme never really fully developed

It's not that it wasn't fully developed just that it didn't exist. The Huntress backstory pretty much kills that idea.
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