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Linehan’s passing offenses
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:58 pm
This is the rank of every passing offense coached by Linehan going back to 03
Viking OC
2003 #3
2004 #2
Miami Dolphins OC
2005 #16
St. Louis Rams HC
2006 #4
2007 #19
2008 #25
Detroit Lions OC
2009 #21
2010 #12
2011 #3
2012 #2
2013 #3
Dallas Cowboys (PGC and then OC)
2014 #15
2015 #27
2016 #20
2017 #27
2018 #22
So I have No fricking idea
If you look deeper there are just as many excuses for his good seasons. (prime Randy Moss, Prime Calvin Johnson, Holt and Bruce) as his bad ones (Tony Romo gets injured on 2015, Garrett is really running the offense)
Viking OC
2003 #3
2004 #2
Miami Dolphins OC
2005 #16
St. Louis Rams HC
2006 #4
2007 #19
2008 #25
Detroit Lions OC
2009 #21
2010 #12
2011 #3
2012 #2
2013 #3
Dallas Cowboys (PGC and then OC)
2014 #15
2015 #27
2016 #20
2017 #27
2018 #22
So I have No fricking idea
If you look deeper there are just as many excuses for his good seasons. (prime Randy Moss, Prime Calvin Johnson, Holt and Bruce) as his bad ones (Tony Romo gets injured on 2015, Garrett is really running the offense)
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:59 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
Garrett is really running the offense
And who knows how much Jerry Jones was involved there too.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:00 pm to SammyTiger
He passed for 5000 yards with Matthew Stafford. He is a good.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:00 pm to TigerLunatik
Didn’t Garrett always call plays in Dallas ?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:02 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Johnson caught 1964 yards that season.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:06 pm to SammyTiger
Thank you for your post. Very insightful, it gives something for these ranters to look at rather than ridicule without any knowledge of the man. Welcome Coach, if Coach O is content with the hire than so am I
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:06 pm to SammyTiger
wasn’t excited about the hire but i’ve gotten all my melting out. like some other poster said, maybe he was just brought in to help develop our qb’s. offense is already installed so we don’t need him to implement anything new (which is good because he’s not a spread guy). his play calling in dallas was horrific, and his receivers were on record criticizing his routes/scheme.
as long as he’s not calling plays or trying to implement his pro style philosophies, I’m okay with it IF he can help with the development of our QB’s.
as long as he’s not calling plays or trying to implement his pro style philosophies, I’m okay with it IF he can help with the development of our QB’s.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:24 pm to NorthTxLSU
He has put Dak in some pretty good situations. Once they acquired Cooper Dak's numbers went up at the end of last season. However; this season drops is what killed Dallas all year. So it will be interesting to see what he can do with Coach E.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:32 pm to SammyTiger
In Dallas, superior O-line and Murray/Zeke contributed to the dramatic drop-off on passing stats...by design.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:38 pm to NorthTxLSU
All you naysayers and
@SEC
bashers...this is all you should need to read: When Lil Nicky jumped to
@NFL
.. the 1st OC he called was...LINEHAN who was with the Miami Dolphins in 2005 under Nick Saban, then was hired as head coach by the St. Louis Rams on January 19, 2006.
@SEC
bashers...this is all you should need to read: When Lil Nicky jumped to
@NFL
.. the 1st OC he called was...LINEHAN who was with the Miami Dolphins in 2005 under Nick Saban, then was hired as head coach by the St. Louis Rams on January 19, 2006.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:04 pm to SammyTiger
Looks like the QB has a lot to do with the success of the offense; regardless of the talent of the OC.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:25 pm to SammyTiger
The more I look At his resume the less I have Any idea how good this guy is.
Teams have had some great season under him.
Teams have had some stinkers.
He’s had great QB play? But Culpepper had a great first year, Tony Romo has a whole career without him. Bulger also had good stats, and while he had his best year under Linehan, it was also the only year he played 16 games.
Is there anything wrong with leaning on HOF WRs like Moss, Holt/Bruce and Calvin Johnson?
No. The most impressive year has to be 2004c when Culpepper threw for 4700 yards and 4000 of them were to people not named Randy.
Still that was 2004.
Teams have had some great season under him.
Teams have had some stinkers.
He’s had great QB play? But Culpepper had a great first year, Tony Romo has a whole career without him. Bulger also had good stats, and while he had his best year under Linehan, it was also the only year he played 16 games.
Is there anything wrong with leaning on HOF WRs like Moss, Holt/Bruce and Calvin Johnson?
No. The most impressive year has to be 2004c when Culpepper threw for 4700 yards and 4000 of them were to people not named Randy.
Still that was 2004.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:33 pm to NorthTxLSU
quote:
wasn’t excited about the hire but i’ve gotten all my melting out. like some other poster said, maybe he was just brought in to help develop our qb’s. offense is already installed so we don’t need him to implement anything new (which is good because he’s not a spread guy).
Here's an article for you: Urban Meyer on the foundation of his offense
Excerpt from article:
"In 1999, Dan Mullen was my GA at Notre Dame. John L. Smith was the coach at Louisville and Scott Linehan was the offensive coordinator. I started watching them on film and said I want to go study them. He said sure go ahead. We ended up staying four days and had to go buy a toothbrush. I was so enamored with the style of play. That was spread the field and be extremely aggressive. The biggest issue was how to handle pressures. The tighter the formation, the more pressures. It's really a numbers game. It was a different philosophy I had never really…after that, both Dan and I really attacked it. I started getting phone calls about being a head coach and thought about what I would do offensively."
So, the guy was running spread offenses in 1999 with Chris Redman then the next two years with Dave Ragone at QB, but the ranters declare he is not a spread guy. SMH.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:45 pm to Curtis Lowe
Another excerpt:
"This is a remarkably in-depth and informative answer and captures Meyer's embrace of the spread. Chris Brown tells a similar story:
Meyer bounced around as an assistant coach, finally as receivers coach at Notre Dame under the schematically brilliant but instinctively cro-magnon Bob Davie. Meyer has recalled losing to Nebraska in 2001, and being struck when, after they lost, he found one of his best players, David Givens, crying at his locker because he was unable to help his team win: he hadn't touched the ball the entire game. He swore to run an offense that got his playmakers the ball. While at Notre Dame, he began meeting with his intellectual mentor (his actual mentors were guys like Lou Holtz), Scott Linehan. (Yes, that Scott Linehan.) He was hired as Head Coach of Bowling Green, and decided that -- in years that just happened to be the rather formative ones for the spread -- he would have his staff learn at the masters' feet.
So, eschewing typical coaching visit hotspots like Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, and the like, Meyer directed his staff to make a Midwest pilgrimage to learn from the likes of: John L. Smith and Scott Linehan at Louisville; Joe Tiller and Jim Chaney (now St. Louis Rams) at Purdue; Randy Walker and Kevin Wilson (now at Oklahoma) at Northwestern; and, of course, with Rich Rod at West Virginia. What all these guys had in common was they were one-back or spread coaches, they had the ability to run the ball (though Meyer focused more on passing with a team like Purdue), and they had an organized, conceptual way of thinking about football."
"This is a remarkably in-depth and informative answer and captures Meyer's embrace of the spread. Chris Brown tells a similar story:
Meyer bounced around as an assistant coach, finally as receivers coach at Notre Dame under the schematically brilliant but instinctively cro-magnon Bob Davie. Meyer has recalled losing to Nebraska in 2001, and being struck when, after they lost, he found one of his best players, David Givens, crying at his locker because he was unable to help his team win: he hadn't touched the ball the entire game. He swore to run an offense that got his playmakers the ball. While at Notre Dame, he began meeting with his intellectual mentor (his actual mentors were guys like Lou Holtz), Scott Linehan. (Yes, that Scott Linehan.) He was hired as Head Coach of Bowling Green, and decided that -- in years that just happened to be the rather formative ones for the spread -- he would have his staff learn at the masters' feet.
So, eschewing typical coaching visit hotspots like Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, and the like, Meyer directed his staff to make a Midwest pilgrimage to learn from the likes of: John L. Smith and Scott Linehan at Louisville; Joe Tiller and Jim Chaney (now St. Louis Rams) at Purdue; Randy Walker and Kevin Wilson (now at Oklahoma) at Northwestern; and, of course, with Rich Rod at West Virginia. What all these guys had in common was they were one-back or spread coaches, they had the ability to run the ball (though Meyer focused more on passing with a team like Purdue), and they had an organized, conceptual way of thinking about football."
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:51 pm to Curtis Lowe
I agree. Everyone wants to talk about his NFL Career, but when you look back into his college days He was clearly running a spread. The guy is going to be much more spread happy and RPO friendly this day and age in college football.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:51 pm to SammyTiger
I think it shows that if he has the weapons in place to succeed then he will do just that.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:40 pm to SammyTiger
I think he's gonna be fricking awesome.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:44 pm to BlackAngus
quote:That's not true during his tenure with the Cowboys. He had prime Dak, Zeke, Cooper & Dez. They regressed in redzone efficiency under him.
I think it shows that if he has the weapons in place to succeed then he will do just that.
quote:
Through 15 games, the Cowboys rank next-to-last in red zone touchdown percentage, scoring a TD only on a woeful 44.19% of their red zone visits. The only other teams failing to score a touchdown in fewer than half or their red zone appearances are San Francisco, the Jets, Jacksonville, and the Giants-all teams who failed to make the playoffs this season.
But truth be told, it’s not just scoring from inside the opponents’ 20:
quote:
Putting up fewer than 20 points per game won’t get it done very often, and almost certainly not in the playoffs against the best teams in the league. And no team has ever won a game without scoring anything.
Not surprisingly, offensive coordinator Scott Linehan once again finds himself drawing the ire of Cowboys fans, after his unit failed to notch any points at all against Indianapolis, in a game that could have secured the division crown.
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:48 pm to SammyTiger
I firmly believe that O shied away from the high risk/high reward hire because he trusts what he already has in place. Linehan is a very safe hire that will not look to make monumental changes and will mesh well with what is already in place. O could have went for a splash hire only to have someone come in with an entirely different strategy that didn't sit well with those around him. While that approach could reap huge rewards, it is also risky when you have the best offense in America already. Linehan will be called on to make subtle adjustments based on his experience and knowledge, not to transform this offense. If this offense looks to be in need of an overhaul next year, I trust O to go get the right guy. Now's not the time to reach.
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