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re: LHSAA votes - how will it go?

Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by shaqtaw
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:31 pm to
What about getting rid of act 465. ?
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:55 pm to
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if I was one of those principals, I’d be offended that it was insinuated that Norman Booker needed to politick me into a position I’d have with or without his influenc


He has been the vocal leader of destroying the LHSAA and they have followed him every step of the way.

The principals who voted for the split had zero problem screwing over the kids time and time again. If they are offended they need to look in the mirror.

They should be more offended at how bad the education is in the state that they run
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 10:10 pm
Posted by D.B.Cooper
Member since Nov 2012
222 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:58 pm to
Form their own and have no restrictions on recruiting. Bet the publics would want them back without a split. Curtis could literally hand pick their team at junior high athletic events and the publics could do nothing about it
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:21 pm to
You really just compare the crowds at STM and Northside? Northside is a failing school that is losing enrollment every year and whatever athletes they do have don’t stay eligible long.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:42 pm to
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Curtis could literally hand pick their team at junior high athletic events and the publics could do nothing about it
this is basically how it already is
Posted by D.B.Cooper
Member since Nov 2012
222 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:21 am to
No. At least now the LHSAA CAN enforce punishments, however everyone knows they choose not to.
They form their own and take a couple public powers with them. Where the $$ and sponsors goes.
I wonder where officials, umpires and referees would go work? Baker vs McKinley or Parkview Vs STM? Could get ugly for the LHSAA if they do chose to organize.
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:26 am to
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Would love to know what private school and Public schools you’re referencing because bullshite


Private............. EDW
Public.......Franklin, West St Mary, Patterson (lately), one on the Westbank can't remember the name
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:54 am to
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LHSAA votes - how will it go?
Would love to know what private school and Public schools you’re referencing because bullshite
It's all public record go dig it up It's the Schools that were tired of losing to ECA and JC that created the Play in class rule in 2004(because it would "lessen their power"... The schools with the most resources shoved JC and ECA down on the schools with the least resources... common knowledge...

took 9 years but that is what caused the split
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 7:55 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:57 am to
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Proposal #12 which unifies the split sports, adds a 6A, and issues a 1.25 multiplier probably has the most support but requires a 2/3 vote and won’t pass.
this is likely getting amended a little and is really the best shot.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:00 am to
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Remove all private schools and force them to reapply (with no guarantee they will be accepted)


How about private schools tell the LHSAA to frick off

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#1 and they split and form their own association


Why do the private schools need the LHSAA? When private schools travel to a public school there's like 14 frickin fans and we roll in with 500
you haven' been to places like oak grove, acadiana, wm have you. the selects can't even remotely get on the same page.. and why do they need the publics.. hmmm the overwhelming minority of selects do not have their own stadium..... for starters... and the issues are much more complicated that they would seem...especially in relation to NFHS
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30773 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:05 am to
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No. At least now the LHSAA CAN enforce punishments, however everyone knows they choose not to
look at what happens every time they do... they get sued.... also the limited scope of investigatory power they have and the extremely limited scope of who can turn in a school greatly limits who gets turned in.. THey may know for instance that high school A has 4 kids getting illegal transportation or tuition help - but..... proving it is another thing, heck investigating it is a no go unless a head coach, ad or principal turns them in.

and.... shortly after the split a principal or head coach called the LHSAA and claimed a certain school(one of the ones everyone loves to hate) was holding illegal football workouts/practices.... so..... two folks from the office on old hammond head down to NO to check it out - either that day or the next day. the go to said school - nobody is there..... so they go around to 7 other schools 4 or 5 were holding illegal practices/workouts.... including very likely the one that dropped the dime....
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:09 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:12 am to
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They form their own and take a couple public powers with them.


The second part won’t happen.

I would put likelihood of a second association forming in the next five years at around 10%. People don’t realize the monumental hurdle it is to get that off the ground even in a state where there are a lot of private schools.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:18 am to
The LHSAA hand picks the rules they enforce. Lately they have been hammering select schools for incredibly minor infractions - like clerical errors - while wholly ignoring major infractions by a certain public football power up North.

Again, there is more conflict between North and South than between select and non-select. The north is over represented in the EC and as such is the tail wagging the dog.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30773 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:20 am to
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I would put likelihood of a second association forming in the next five years at around 10%. People don’t realize the monumental hurdle it is to get that off the ground even in a state where there are a lot of private schools.

the chasm between the smaller selects and larger ones is wide. Heck even within the same classes they can't get on same page. I hear the 6a plan there is enough common ground with changes to get that to pass - but there will be some not happy with it. Just like in 2004 a multiplier was shot down because it didn't solve all "problems" and may have created new ones.... the time has long since come for enrollment not to be the deciding factor... but out of zone kids, % of enrolled kids playing the non country club sports) and one other little surprise..... case in point there are several schools in 5a and 4a that have not been competitive in a generation and won't anytime soon. just like there are some in smaller classes that could play up 1-2 or even 3 classes. but the bottom line is people looking out for their schools parochial interests caused this and have caused it to widen. at least now the leadership and ec are trying to resolve decades worth of problems.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30773 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:22 am to
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The LHSAA hand picks the rules they enforce. Lately they have been hammering select schools for incredibly minor infractions - like clerical errors - while wholly ignoring major infractions by a certain public football power up North.
again the complaint needs to come from the mandated sources or they can't even look into it... and some publics have been called to carpet on the minor clerical issues too....
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:32 am to
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again the complaint needs to come from the mandated sources or they can't even look into it...


It did.

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and some publics have been called to carpet on the minor clerical issues too...


Yes, in the South . . . that aren't football powers.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:33 am to
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What about getting rid of act 465. ?


The EC redacted 465 in November. Friday, the membership has the opportunity to ratify that redaction or can vote to reinstall 465. Because it is an eligibility issue, it only needs a majority to ratify.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 am to
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the chasm between the smaller selects and larger ones is wide.



I don't know where you get your information, but it is inaccurate. There isn't 100% agreement across the board but the selects are significantly unified on most major issues.


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Heck even within the same classes they can't get on same page. I hear the 6a plan there is enough common ground with changes to get that to pass -


That's not in line with anything being discussed and is not the opinion of the author of the proposal.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30773 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:39 am to
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I don't know where you get your information, but it is inaccurate. There isn't 100% agreement across the board but the selects are significantly unified on most major issues.

from conversations with coaches, ADs and principals.

if they want a proposal to pass editing / amending that one is the best option and a few folks are lobbying for it.


but I was pretty confident that the split could be resolved but upon seeing the paltry attendance at the town hall meetings and some discussions at and after town hall meetings - also come into play...
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:49 am
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1481 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:39 am to
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overwhelming minority of selects do not have their own stadium..... for starters


That makes NO sense
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