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re: It’s Time We All Get Behind Bernie
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:30 am to teke184
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:30 am to teke184
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Eugene V Dems ran as a socialist as a national candidate in multiple elections. Doesn’t seem to have helped them much unless you are conceding certain subsequent presidents as socialists.
The difference is now the political left has a lot of control in media and in social media outlets
Just because something happened once it doesn't mean the outcome will be the same if it happens again
And Sanders would certainly get a much larger vote share than Debs ever did
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:39 am to Powerman
Bernie would be polarizing as hell.
He would probably do extremely well in urban areas but get his arse kicked outside of them.
What I think is a bigger concern for the Dems is that Bernie potentially breaks their fractious caucus into several pieces
The youth vote and the hard left would clearly go Bernie. Feminists, blacks, blue collar whites, etc? Not necessarily.
The Dems are precariously balanced so they can win if they get their turnout in certain groups. But Bernie won’t his those thresholds.
With black voters in particular, Bernie has a horrible track record of getting their vote while Trump is trending upward.
If Trump gets a sizable percentage of the black vote, the Dems may be screwed long term without a realignment because their strategy is based on getting about 80% or more of the black vote plus high turnout.
If those black voters bolt and vote Republican, they may never return to the Dems. And that should scare them.
He would probably do extremely well in urban areas but get his arse kicked outside of them.
What I think is a bigger concern for the Dems is that Bernie potentially breaks their fractious caucus into several pieces
The youth vote and the hard left would clearly go Bernie. Feminists, blacks, blue collar whites, etc? Not necessarily.
The Dems are precariously balanced so they can win if they get their turnout in certain groups. But Bernie won’t his those thresholds.
With black voters in particular, Bernie has a horrible track record of getting their vote while Trump is trending upward.
If Trump gets a sizable percentage of the black vote, the Dems may be screwed long term without a realignment because their strategy is based on getting about 80% or more of the black vote plus high turnout.
If those black voters bolt and vote Republican, they may never return to the Dems. And that should scare them.
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