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re: Bo Pelini next LSU DC - 3yr/2.3 Mil
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:59 am to Rosenblatt
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:59 am to Rosenblatt
I would be hesitant to hire someone from NFL (Richard) fearing the first chance they get they will jump back. Just not sure how many legit candidates there were at this time. Pelini seems to be best fit having been at LSU before with great success. 2.3 per year is steep but the great thing is we can all see how it works out.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:14 am to RemouladeSawce
You don’t forget how to coach. Never had worst then 9 wins at Nebraska. He plays a very aggressive style of Defense, which O wants.. this is a great hire.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:16 am to iheartchimichangas
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Pelini feels like a downgrade from Aranda.
This is basically all you Aranda guys can hang your hat on.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:33 am to RemouladeSawce
quote:and look how well those hires turned out
Downvote away cucks it is what it is. Much like E, it's another hire that would only happen under O.
frickin idiot
Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:33 am to LSUdude247
Very excited for the style he will play. Bring the heat!
Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:58 am to TrueBaldPate
U skippies are young! He was a great DC at LSU before, give the guy a chance!
Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:26 am to LSUdude247
I'm just worried he wont be able to adjust to the modern offense in the SEC.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:54 am to MarreroMike
I'm ok with the hire but $2.3 million a year? Does that not seem a tad much considering we were paying Aranda $2.5 million, which was the highest salary for an assistant coach in college football?...How can we justify paying Bo almost the same amount? My guess is that Bo rejected a lower offer, but Orgeron really wanted him and got what he wanted with a higher offer. It just seems like way too much to pay for someone who's been at a small university for several years and there may be some uncertainty as to whether he can still be a great DC in the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:08 am to SUB
Any update on when the press conference might be? I know the hire was still pending approval from the BOS as of yesterday.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:25 am to Tigerfinch
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COMPLETELY and utterly ridiculous. Spread offenses and RPO offenses LITERALLY grew from FCS ranks and smaller schools in order to negate the OVERWHELMING talent deficit they faced.
This is not a factual statement. FCS schools did not invent the spread, and they did not have a talent deficit, when all they play are other FCS teams. I think perhaps you are confusing FCS, with non-power 5 division 1 teams. And yes, those teams did run a lot of spread, but simply calling the spread of 15 to 20 years ago the same thing as what is run today, is blatantly misleading. What is run today is only similar in that it uses five wide sets and empty backfields. The RPO is what drives everything. It requires that you make precise reads, as opposed to running an option where you are deciding on whether to pitch it or keep it.
FCS teams rarely have QB's who can competently run such a scheme.
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you’re just noticing FB because the big boys have adapted now themselves.
No, the big boys didn't adapt to what the small schools were doing, they took elements of the spread and added new concepts. And the fact that this system is now ubiquitous, as opposed to being a novelty, makes it a much different animal.
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this IS what FCS and smaller schools have turned to for quite some time. Don’t be silly...call it by whatever name you want but the AIR RAID and such schemes have been around for decades. Yes more teams are mixing it with RPO schemes now as a sort of hybri d air raid/option but don’t be so foolish.
Again, the RPO is what has changed everything. What Mike Leach has run for years (Which I am aware he has been running for years, and don't need your constant repeating that the spread isn't new) was a gimmick that, whenever he came across an SEC style defense, it failed. The RPO's, run by real QB's with actual NFL talent, have been almost unstoppable. Because the threat of the run makes it hard to predict what's coming, and having to prepare for accurate QB's means you have to adjust in how you blitz. So don't tell me "oh, they've just 'mixed' in that RPO thing". That is pretty ignorant. And it's important to note that lots of offenses we see today have elements of multiple different offenses, that date back indefinitely. But how these things are implemented together and perfected over time is how you define "modern" offense, vs. what you are talking about.
And I'll repeat what I said in another thread. That is that IF we just go with the argument that all things are relative, and that it doesn't matter that Pelini wasn't facing great talent, because he didn't have great talent either, then please explain why his team gave up 26.8 points per game this year against all FCS teams? And how did they give up 56 points to a 5-7 South Dakota team? We don't even know just how many of those teams even ran anything close to a spread. Some may have. But those numbers aren't encouraging, regardless.
But, again, as has been my point from the very beginning, I'm NOT saying he can't or won't succeed here. My comment was that I was skeptical but hopeful. Hopeful, because I like that he has an attacking style, and IF he adjusts to account for the vast difference in how offenses are being run in this league compared to before, then I like the idea of our athletes being turned loose. And I'm skeptical, for all the reasons I've run down. I am in a "wait and see" mode with this hire.
If people have an issue with that, too bad. If people are so scared of the idea that maybe something might not work, to the point that they immediately react with vitriol and TYPING IN LOUD CAPS every five words, then they should consider checking their emotions at the door before starting a conversation.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:20 am to southdowns84
Brady and Aranda were smoke screens. Ponamsky and O developed a “limitless” pill. Ponamsky eats them like skittles. We are good.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:21 am to Metaloctopus
Bo will have plenty of time to practice against the best spread/RPO offense in the country - LSU's. I agree with Coach O that Bo is the right man for the job and that we will have the type of defense that Coach O wants. It's a good time to be a Tiger fan
Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:33 am to Doctor K
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You don’t forget how to coach. Never had worst then 9 wins at Nebraska. He plays a very aggressive style of Defense, which O wants.. this is a great hire.
he had better learned to defend the spread...
which he was not able to do very well the last time around.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:45 am to mofungoo
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Bo will have plenty of time to practice against the best spread/RPO offense in the country - LSU's. I agree with Coach O that Bo is the right man for the job and that we will have the type of defense that Coach O wants. It's a good time to be a Tiger fan
Yep, he will indeed get to practice against it. We'll see how it goes.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:11 pm to rbdallas
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which he was not able to do very well the last time around.
you seriously have no fricking clue what you're talking about
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:36 pm to In The Know
you must be a young whipper snapper , foot ball is a complicated sport not learned in a few years !
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:44 pm to sicboy
Some people are just looking for a place to be in life , his case it is a nay saying fan at LSU !
Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:01 pm to timm6971463
O Pelini don’t play around
Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:31 pm to SlidellTiger
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Pelini feels like a downgrade from Aranda.
TR posters feel like a downgrade from true fans
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