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LSU Bama Recruiting Comparisons last 10 years

Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:30 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:30 am
I ran down another rabbit hole this morning and used the 247 recruiting rankings to put together a chart for LSU vs Bama.I found it interesting and decided to share. Link to 2020 recruiting rankins below.

247 2020 recuiting rankings

Graphic below show 2011-2020 recruiting ranking, obviously 2020 is written in clay, not stone at this point. Also commits do not necessarily equal enrollees for any particular year. I also took the average for that time period.



ETA: as some have pointed out, there is little difference in a 1-10 ranking in recruiting and almost none in 1-5. The eye catching thinkg to me is the numbers. LSU had more than 25 3 time 1-26, 2-27 but had 5 (I assume 1 more for 2020) less than 25 1-22, 2-23, 2-24. 246 total commits in that time period.

Alabama, on the other hand, had more than 25 6 times if all the commits sign this year (if they can, one is a soft commit) 4-26, 1-27, 1-9 but only had 2 less than 25 1-24 and 1-22. 256 commits in that time period.

That spells depth.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:04 am
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3407 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:36 am to
Draw a big circle around that 2018 class. When we drop a few games this season, that will be the answer.

There is not that much difference between #1 and #5. So if we end up top 5 in 2020 and 2021, I like our chances in the future.

Of course, a lot also depends on Coach O's upcoming hires.
Posted by RadarTiger
Member since Dec 2018
3374 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:38 am to
How tf did they sign 29 in 2017 after signing 25 the class before? Was that before the rule change?
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33321 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:40 am to
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Draw a big circle around that 2018 class. When we drop a few games this season, that will be the answer.


We have had a significant number of players from that class transfer already too:

Kelvin Joseph
Davin Cotton
Kenan Jones (although I believe he is coming back?)
Cole Smith
Dominic Livingston
Zach Sheffer
Tae Provens
Dantrieze Scott
Posted by Mando
Boston
Member since Dec 2019
573 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to
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quote:
Draw a big circle around that 2018 class. When we drop a few games this season, that will be the answer.


Drop a "FEW" games. Are you an imbecile?
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
6891 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to
Don’t believe any of those besides Jones, Cotton and Joseph would have ever seen the field if were honest.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33321 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:45 am to
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Are you an imbecile?


You are replying to the wrong post.
Posted by ELchapoLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
1517 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:47 am to
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Don’t believe any of those besides Jones, Cotton and Joseph would have ever seen the field if were honest.


Only Joseph
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34878 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:49 am to
I’m not one of those guys that say recruiting rankings don’t matter, because they obviously do. But the difference between 1-10 is not that great. It’s more about getting players that stick around, fill your needs and fit your system.

The recruiting services are good at recognizing the 5 stars, which are elite and everyone can see it. They are horrible are ranking the mid level 3 stars and lower 4 stars.

Despite all those rankings, Alabama had some injuries this year and had no depth. Where did those great players go?
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:00 am
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:54 am to
Explains why Bama looks human now. There’s a huuuuuuuge difference between A.) 5, 1, and 2 in the past 3 years and B.) being 1,1,1,1,1,1 and outscoring the next closest team by 15 points and pulling every major recruit that you target. Good to see their talent level “dropping off” by their 2010-2017 standard
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
44530 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:55 am to
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How tf did they sign 29 in 2017 after signing 25 the class before? Was that before the rule change?



The interesting thing is that year all 29 are listed as enrollees. That is actually what sent me down that hole.

I am a little confused by some of the numbers myself.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:56 am to
Just for comparison sake, The following is Clemson's:

11....10
12....20
13....15
14....16
15....9
16....11
17....16
18....7
19....10
20....1
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9409 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Draw a big circle around that 2018 class. When we drop a few games this season, that will be the answer.



It’s also the class that brought us Burrow and Tracy.......how many wins have they accounted for?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54941 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:57 am to
I think that was time of the rule change and it's why they only signed 22 the next year plus they had to process to get to their 85

LSU also had more transfers than Bama which paid off with Fehoko, Moss, Giles, Alexander, Burrow, Tracy at positions of need
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 9:59 am
Posted by brewdrees
Member since Aug 2018
5493 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:00 am to
Will we ever see a #1 recruiting rank again???

I still think that our recruited players get downgraded in the rankings when they commit to LSU and not Bama.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
44530 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:08 am to
quote:

LSU also had more transfers than Bama which paid off with Fehoko, Moss, Giles, Alexander, Burrow, Tracy at positions of need





Those may account for some of the "short" years, I guess.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
44530 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:08 am to
Boutte got upgraded
Posted by CThr33
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
29 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:14 am to
With those Clemson rankings, are they having to do with Dabo undersigning a lot of those years but having some top flight talent? I didn't look at all those classes, but like in '18 where he had 5 5-stars & Justyn Ross & they finish 7th.
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:15 am to
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We have had a significant number of players from that class transfer already too


The ones still around stand to make a significant contribution this year and have made significant impact already:.
Chris Curry
Chasen Hines
Dare Rosenthal (will probably start next year)
Micah Baskerville
Damone Clark (how underrated was he?)
Nelson Jenkins

Oh yeah, and Terrace Marshall and Ja’Marr Chase

Some of them were vastly underrated. Trust in CEO.

This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:16 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34878 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:18 am to
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Draw a big circle around that 2018 class. When we drop a few games this season, that will be the answer.


The demise of 2018 has been greatly exaggerated.
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