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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/14/20 at 9:08 am to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11489 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 9:08 am to
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Well they changed the criteria for counting cases in Hubei


Which has been one of the criticisms on this board of your opinions. The numbers are not able to be trusted. Changing the criteria is a good method of how people muddy up statistics. Many knew they were going to be doing that.

Yet, when someone says that they are hysterical and want this thing to kill everyone or they won't be happy.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 9:13 am to
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Which has been one of the criticisms on this board of your opinions. The numbers are not able to be trusted. Changing the criteria is a good method of how people muddy up statistics. Many knew they were going to be doing that.
I don't think anyone here puts 100% trust in the numbers out of China, slackster included. In fact, I've seen several posts of his where he basically ignores most of the China numbers and focuses on the ones from the rest of the world.

I am more than sure that when/if the rest of the world starts putting out concerning numbers, then AND ONLY THEN will slackster change his tune. Which is the rational and logical way to view this whole thing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85144 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 9:21 am to
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Which has been one of the criticisms on this board of your opinions. The numbers are not able to be trusted. Changing the criteria is a good method of how people muddy up statistics. Many knew they were going to be doing that.


I've said for two weeks now we could completely ignore China and focus on the rest of the world if you'd like. Like it or not, the numbers outside of China are mundane.

For example, yesterday a paper was posted that said the R0 was 4.6-6.7 based on cases doubling ~2.3 days. That's scary, but it needs context. It has taken the entirety of February for cases to double in the US. We had our 7th case on 1/31 and our 14th was yesterday. I believe we've only had one human to human transmission in the US so far, but I could be mistaken.

Point is, if you don't trust the third world statistics, there are plenty of first world reports that are promising.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 9:54 am to
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Changing the criteria is a good method of how people muddy up statistics. Many knew they were going to be doing that.


Now you are adding an insidious spin on it.

They didn’t change to criteria to what was beneficial to them (how can you see the numbers of the past few days and think that? )

They mirrored the prevailing definitions of other countries for consistency of reporting when tracking this on a global scale.

Conversely, the numbers didn’t change radically enough to justify the earlier cries of “actual counts are 10 times as bad!”
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