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re: Eddie Bonine speaks candidly

Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37311 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
I don't like making the privates re-apply for membership.

If there are problems, document them, and build a file for expulsion.

The big issue is that not all private schools are created equal. Years and years of angst because of a group of schools fewer than the number of fingers on two hands (and you might not even need the second hand).

Curtis and Evangel problems have been mostly solved by them being in 5A.

Here is my suggestion. Quit classifying schools by enrollment. Classify them using number of athletes as a guide. Curtis and Evangel (and LCA) do what they did because they dress 100 kids for football when the teams they are classed with dressed 40.

You could further work this by setting limits on the number of kids or coaches per team, per classification. Perhaps 2A schools get 3 football coaches, but 5A gets 8.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30866 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Quit classifying schools by enrollment.
This valid... there are some 5a enrollment schools that have no shot in 5a because of demographics and pilferage... but with that being said for the vast majority of selects a multiplier is needed.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10238 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
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Quit classifying schools by enrollment.

Amen. I've been saying this to anyone who will listen for the last 5 years.

Put together a committee for each sport made up of people who know that sport inside & out, and have them classify every school based on participation rates and recent success. I know we have way too many "committees" in life but this is one time it actually makes sense.

Enrollment has 0 to do with school athletic potential anymore.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11489 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:26 pm to
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At the end of the day, there are really only a handful of private schools that prioritizes sports in such a way that they are able to completely dominate a division


That’s the main problem. This whole issue revolves around a few dominant schools. Most private schools are on a shoestring budget, and can’t afford having a bunch of students enrolled that don’t pay tuition.

A secondary issue is the continuous decline of Louisiana’s population and education system. Small town schools are shrinking, and their leadership and quality have suffered. Those schools are not competitive against any school, Public or private, with any kind of standards and competence. These small Publics are no longer concerned with just the Evangel and JC type of schools, but all Privates.
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Quit classifying schools by enrollment. Classify them using number of athletes as a guide.

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You could further work this by setting limits on the number of kids or coaches per team, per classification. Perhaps 2A schools get 3 football coaches, but 5A gets 8.


Both of these suggestions should be explored. Most private schools can’t afford the extra uniforms, much less the salaries of several extra coaches, unless they stress athletics over academics and have a church and big boosters supplementing their budget.

There is no perfect solution. Texas has a tiny percentage of students enrolled in Private schools, and they are completely separated. There is constant controversy behind the scenes in Public schools over powerhouse football and basketball schools recruiting players. It happens in big cities and suburbs, and it happens in small town schools
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:44 am to
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Here is my suggestion. Quit classifying schools by enrollment. Classify them using number of athletes as a guide.


I think that would work for large schools, but it would create a challenge for small schools. You have to remember, large schools have kids try out for teams, cut kids, etc., so that when you’re talking about “number of athletes,” you’re actually talking about kids who made a team.

Many smaller schools have no cut policies, and more importantly, many smaller select schools believe that being part of an athletic team as an important part of the overall educational experience. So you’ve got coaches and athletic directors encouraging fairly non-athletic kids to join a team because of the character building lessons it will teach the kid. These are often kids who are not actually ever going to get playtime, but being a part of the team still benefits them immensely. It’s a hard sell for these schools to say that doing this is going to penalize them in terms of classification.
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