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re: Like to hear the libertarian reaction to Trump's handling of Iran...
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:03 pm to TigerWhatIR
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:03 pm to TigerWhatIR
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or demonstrate an immanent threat to violate our rights
Well, well, well, well, well, (clockwork orange). Now you have shifted your position. You believe that border walls can be justified. An invasion is an immanent threat. Millions of people coming here to create a welfare based socialist state is an immanent threat. It's happening. Stopping it is a justified protection of a free society.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:29 pm to Zach
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Well, well, well, well, well, (clockwork orange). Now you have shifted your position. You believe that border walls can be justified. An invasion is an immanent threat. Millions of people coming here to create a welfare based socialist state is an immanent threat. It's happening. Stopping it is a justified protection of a free society.
Wrong, and I haven’t shifted anything.
Your definition of immanent threat (as a direct violation of your rights) includes simply having a neighbor who supports socialism/communism and you believe you have the right to use violence to expel them from their property because they MIGHT convince your neighbors to gang up and steal your stuff. What’s worse is that you are collectivizing individuals in your sadistic belief that you have the right to use violence against others for what their political beliefs might be.
My idea of immanent threat, as I already explained, is a gun in your face, or someone announcing that they’re imminently going to harm you (like, as soon as I finish building this bomb, I’m going to blow you up). But I would not ban all my neighbors from owning guns just because some might commit crimes with them.
Don’t want communists around you? Don’t sell your property to them, and encourage your neighbors to do the same.
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