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Share of female bachelor's degrees by major 1971 to 2017
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:32 pm
And remember we've poured a shite ton of money to specifically recruit women to stem fields to increase their numbers in both universities and businesses.
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:43 pm to tiggerthetooth
Looks like a decent jump in 1980, then not much else.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
No surprise. Women just typically aren’t very good at engineering. Not all mind you, I work with a couple women who are excellent engineers, but they are very matter-of-fact and don’t seem to give a frick about the silly things most women do.
The others though? They love bitching about the way things SHOULD be done or how nobody does things correctly, but refuse to be a part of any solution or improvement if it requires them doing an ounce of extra work.
In fact, I’ve frequently noticed that whenever there is an unexpected problem (not uncommon in defense industry engineering) and it requires a late night/weekend working session, you will rarely if ever find women willing to roll up their sleeves and work through the issue. It’s always a shrug, some excuse (“I’m meeting my college besty for drinks tonight”) and a cheerful “good luck” as they’re heading out the door.
Nothing pisses me off more than working 18 hour days for weeks on end with other male engineers and then coming in to some slick video posted on our company website about how women are “revolutionizing” STEM.
The others though? They love bitching about the way things SHOULD be done or how nobody does things correctly, but refuse to be a part of any solution or improvement if it requires them doing an ounce of extra work.
In fact, I’ve frequently noticed that whenever there is an unexpected problem (not uncommon in defense industry engineering) and it requires a late night/weekend working session, you will rarely if ever find women willing to roll up their sleeves and work through the issue. It’s always a shrug, some excuse (“I’m meeting my college besty for drinks tonight”) and a cheerful “good luck” as they’re heading out the door.
Nothing pisses me off more than working 18 hour days for weeks on end with other male engineers and then coming in to some slick video posted on our company website about how women are “revolutionizing” STEM.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
I find it hard to believe only half of sociology majors are female.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:55 pm to tiggerthetooth
Wouldn’t the massive increases in architecture, biology and physical science be considered STEM?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:56 pm to tiggerthetooth
It appears there are some pretty decent gains in biology, business, architecture, and physical sciences. Psychology too.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:00 pm to tiggerthetooth
Computer Science has dropped since the 80s. That's interesting.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:03 pm to tiggerthetooth
Women will bitch about “not being equal” (they are) and about the gender rolls inequality (WTF?) but they continue to choose fields that are traditionally seen as female industries.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:22 pm to tiggerthetooth
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This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:23 am to tiggerthetooth
People will probably get lost in specific majors and percentages but I think the take home point most people somehow don't know is roughly 60% of high school graduates and 60% of college graduates are women in the United States.
That's a giant achievement gap that should be a concern for everyone. Not because women are doing well, because it means men are not. Functionally a 40 to 60 ratio shows you that you are 50% more likely to graduate from high school or college if you are born female rather than born male.
There are ways to break down this data further but for most people they tend to obscure the point by noting things like the achievement gap is larger amount some minority groups (black men and hispanic men compared to black women or hispanic women). But the gap is enormous among whites as a whole too. That's a problem period. And the gap is not particularly new, its been there for decades now, it just continues to grow.
A problem for even discussing the issue has been that education fields have been dominated by a view of education that is female centric and tends to be left of center with respect to their targeted groups for special concern (some minorities, almost all women, and other religious or sexual groups are generally considered more in need of interventions or consideration). But even for a purely self interested middle class woman, you ought to be concerned that your brothers and sons are less likely to graduate high school and that you might not be able to find a men educated enough for your desire for social standing to find satisfactory (men will willingly marry less educated women, but women are much more reluctant to do the same).
That's a giant achievement gap that should be a concern for everyone. Not because women are doing well, because it means men are not. Functionally a 40 to 60 ratio shows you that you are 50% more likely to graduate from high school or college if you are born female rather than born male.
There are ways to break down this data further but for most people they tend to obscure the point by noting things like the achievement gap is larger amount some minority groups (black men and hispanic men compared to black women or hispanic women). But the gap is enormous among whites as a whole too. That's a problem period. And the gap is not particularly new, its been there for decades now, it just continues to grow.
A problem for even discussing the issue has been that education fields have been dominated by a view of education that is female centric and tends to be left of center with respect to their targeted groups for special concern (some minorities, almost all women, and other religious or sexual groups are generally considered more in need of interventions or consideration). But even for a purely self interested middle class woman, you ought to be concerned that your brothers and sons are less likely to graduate high school and that you might not be able to find a men educated enough for your desire for social standing to find satisfactory (men will willingly marry less educated women, but women are much more reluctant to do the same).
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:41 am to tiggerthetooth
yall are saying women engineers but they were 1% in 1970 and >20% now.
I cant do that math but that is a shitload % increase
also, there are now more women graduates per year at lsu med school new orleans than men. women became the majority 3 or 4 years ago
I cant do that math but that is a shitload % increase
also, there are now more women graduates per year at lsu med school new orleans than men. women became the majority 3 or 4 years ago
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 2:42 am
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