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re: Bring on a grad transfer
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:17 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:17 am to Lester Earl
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Brennan was not recruited for this offense.
Yes, but he fits this offense. He has a live arm and enough quickness to move in the pocket and pick up yards when flushed. And he’s added enough weight that he won’t die trying. With some adjustments, he should be just fine.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:19 am to BayouCatFan
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Lester Earl is spot on. As for the above quote, we go 8-4 this year without Burrow's running ability.
We all know you don’t know what the frick you’re talking about. Too bad that doesn’t stop you.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:36 am to geauxtigs999
The responses in this thread kind of sucked until Lester came in.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 4:23 am to Fast Times @ LSU
Wtf
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Plus, I'm hearing we may be interested in TCU QB Justin Rogers (again), who will apply to be immediately eligible. The only question is whether Rogers is fully recovered
Posted on 12/15/19 at 5:50 am to Lsutigerturner
He would be a walk on and have to earn a spot. It's a win win
Posted on 12/15/19 at 6:51 am to Fast Times @ LSU
If Rogers is that great and ready to play why isn’t he playing at TCU?
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:38 am to misey94
D’Eriq King is much better than Parrish right now.
I said Max is the backup earlier in this thread bc I think he’s better than Parrish.
I said Max is the backup earlier in this thread bc I think he’s better than Parrish.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:55 am to GhostofJackson
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Look, another grad transfer thread.
YEP...whoopee!
Posted on 12/15/19 at 8:55 am to Lester Earl
You are arguing facts to a bunch guys who prefer the image of a pocket passer being the face of the LSU program over a dual threat QB. Facts don’t matter. The fact Joe Burrow was a dual threat doesn’t overcome their love of the fact he is the face of the program, thus they’ve made his out to be a pocket passer in their mind. The recruiting services had him as a dual threat out of high school. The exact type QB Urban Meyers has always recruited. Mett and Lee were pocket passers. Burrow is a dual threat. He just doesn’t look like their vision of what a dual threat looks like.
Those guys ignore all those super successful dual threat QBs on your list. They go crazy and demonize any potential dual threat QB transferring or commiting to LSU. They prefer the 11th rated pocket passer and 171st ranked player over a 5* number 1 rated dual threat and 15th ranked player. Their reason? The pocket passer is supposedly more accurate. However they have no knowledge of the dual threat’s current completion percentage. Even though the dual threat had a higher completion percentage when both were sophomores. Some have used the dual threat’s sophomore stat in comparison to the pocket passer’s junior stat as their weak assed excuse as to why they prefer a much much lower ranked player. Just imagine if it was the number 1 rated and 15th ranked pocket passer vs the 11th rated and 171st ranked dual threat. They’d call the coaching staff crazy and incompetent for even considering the dual treat if the pocket passer has shown real interest in LSU.
They ignore the overwhelming success of the past number 1 rated dual threat QBs over the last 10 years. It is a 70+% predictor of Heisman level performance, 70+% predictor of CFP participation. These guys want to pass on the opportunity to sign the number 1 rated dual threat QB with their excuse being based on faulty data. They would also have chosen to pass on Deshaun Watson, Justin Fields, Kyler Murray, Jameise Winston, Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson and of course Colin Kaekernick. Go figure. That just does not compute. It is not rational. However a lot of that is going around these days.
Those guys ignore all those super successful dual threat QBs on your list. They go crazy and demonize any potential dual threat QB transferring or commiting to LSU. They prefer the 11th rated pocket passer and 171st ranked player over a 5* number 1 rated dual threat and 15th ranked player. Their reason? The pocket passer is supposedly more accurate. However they have no knowledge of the dual threat’s current completion percentage. Even though the dual threat had a higher completion percentage when both were sophomores. Some have used the dual threat’s sophomore stat in comparison to the pocket passer’s junior stat as their weak assed excuse as to why they prefer a much much lower ranked player. Just imagine if it was the number 1 rated and 15th ranked pocket passer vs the 11th rated and 171st ranked dual threat. They’d call the coaching staff crazy and incompetent for even considering the dual treat if the pocket passer has shown real interest in LSU.
They ignore the overwhelming success of the past number 1 rated dual threat QBs over the last 10 years. It is a 70+% predictor of Heisman level performance, 70+% predictor of CFP participation. These guys want to pass on the opportunity to sign the number 1 rated dual threat QB with their excuse being based on faulty data. They would also have chosen to pass on Deshaun Watson, Justin Fields, Kyler Murray, Jameise Winston, Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson and of course Colin Kaekernick. Go figure. That just does not compute. It is not rational. However a lot of that is going around these days.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:18 am to justustm2
A little long but I read it all buddy. I agree with you.
Look, there have been 24 slots in CFB playoff history.
But only 11 different teams have made the game.
So you ask who is repeating?
Alabama (Jalen hurts, Tua)
Oklahoma (Baker, Kyler Murray, Hurts) all transfer by the way
Clemson (Kelly Bryant, Watson, Lawrence)
Ohio St (JT Barrett, Cardale Jones, Justin fields)
It’s a copy cat sport. So copy it.
The more I think about it the more I think Brennan can do some things well, but he’s not your guy with a guy like King out there. TJ Finley, probably not a guy that’s a future CFB playoff QB for LSU either.
Look, there have been 24 slots in CFB playoff history.
But only 11 different teams have made the game.
So you ask who is repeating?
Alabama (Jalen hurts, Tua)
Oklahoma (Baker, Kyler Murray, Hurts) all transfer by the way
Clemson (Kelly Bryant, Watson, Lawrence)
Ohio St (JT Barrett, Cardale Jones, Justin fields)
It’s a copy cat sport. So copy it.
The more I think about it the more I think Brennan can do some things well, but he’s not your guy with a guy like King out there. TJ Finley, probably not a guy that’s a future CFB playoff QB for LSU either.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 9:21 am
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:27 am to justustm2
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You are arguing facts to a bunch guys who prefer the image of a pocket passer being the face of the LSU program over a dual threat QB. Facts don’t matter.
The human body doesn't have a "dual threat" or "pocket passer" mode. A lot of times what makes a dual threat is willingness to leave the pocket, not even some innate special ability. Also all this jibber jabber is stupid, as if our coaching staff hasn't already proven they can tailor an offense to fit a QB, not the other way around.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:53 am to Lester Earl
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Ran this offense at Ohio state
No he didn't. The only other team that runs this offense is the New Orleans Saints and they do it with a pocket passer.
Why do you think so many opposing coaches keep saying they haven't seen anything like it in college football?
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:02 pm to RichardT
LSU’s offense isn’t much closer to Ohio states than it is the Saints
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:26 pm to Lester Earl
Burrow’s pocket awareness was much more important to our success than his running ability. Coach O specifically limited his running this year to avoid injury.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:33 pm to Drizzt
He ran 67 times for 469 yards
33 runs for first downs
Sorry, but that is significant
33 runs for first downs
Sorry, but that is significant
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:44 pm to Lester Earl
It’s a lot easier to run when you go 4 wide and the secondary is pulled 15 yards down field. We’ll see how Brennan does next year but I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get at least 20 first downs scrambling when there is nothing down field. Brady’s philosophy is throwing opens up running.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:46 pm to Drizzt
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It’s a lot easier to run when you go 4 wide and the secondary is pulled 15 yards down field. We’ll see how Brennan does next year but I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get at least 20 first downs scrambling when there is nothing down field. Brady’s philosophy is throwing opens up running.
I just don't understand how this concept is being lost in the whole equation. Of course there is a lot of running room for a QB, we are using the whole field.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:53 pm to Drizzt
There will be no designed runs for Brennan. So automatically the offense is changing.
And Expecting him to have feel that burrow did on when to leave the pocket is expecting too much. Burrow was a magician in that regard.
And Expecting him to have feel that burrow did on when to leave the pocket is expecting too much. Burrow was a magician in that regard.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:02 pm to geauxtigs999
@ running back or defense side? If king can play one those positions to give depth then maybe. Other than that tell king to hit the road
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:29 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
Dude you are frustratingly obtuse. There will never be another Burrow so why are we even talking about him for next year? Brennan is the best passer we have for next year. Forget Burrows feet, without his passing ability his feet aren't beating Texas or Bama this year. If you all so worried about getting another runner, we are going to end up with another Anthony Jennings situation. The pass opens up his running. I'm not sure how you can't see that. Even Flynn could run the ball when he needed and Brennan is a better athlete than Flynn was.
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