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Electrical help
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:18 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:18 am
Installing a ceiling light where a ceiling fan used to be.
New light fixture is a 2 bulb set up. It has 3 white wires bundled together, 1 black wire and a ground wire.
The ceiling fixture has 2 white and 2 black wires.
I tried to tie a white to white and black to black and of course the ground.
Blowed fuse.
Should I just tie the 3 fixture whites with 1 ceiling white and the fixture black with 1 ceiling black. And cap the remaining ceiling black and whites and not use them?
Thx for your inputs.
New light fixture is a 2 bulb set up. It has 3 white wires bundled together, 1 black wire and a ground wire.
The ceiling fixture has 2 white and 2 black wires.
I tried to tie a white to white and black to black and of course the ground.
Blowed fuse.
Should I just tie the 3 fixture whites with 1 ceiling white and the fixture black with 1 ceiling black. And cap the remaining ceiling black and whites and not use them?
Thx for your inputs.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:38 am to AU1960
What wires are at the wall/ ceiling? Does your ceiling fan have a switch on the wall for the light and a switch on the wall for fan?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:52 am to baldona
Ceiling has 2 blacks and 2 whites.
The only switch on the wall is the main standard light switch.
The only switch on the wall is the main standard light switch.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:57 am to AU1960
By any chance you have a 3 way switch? Do you have a meter to test out what is hot? You can buy one almost at any store. HF has them for under $5.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:09 am to fishfighter
No tester. Waiting for stores to open to get one.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:56 am to AU1960
quote:
Blowed fuse.
Did you blow a fuse or trip a breaker? The answer to this question can also give us an idea of the age of your home. I haven’t seen a single home use fuses since before I was born (and I’m 30).
The easiest way to figure out the wiring situation is to get up in the attic and trace the wires. Of course, only do it if you feel comfortable, but I’ve seen some very interesting wiring methods in even modern homes.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:22 am to bapple
House was built in 65.
The main breaker is on the end of the house.
The fusebox is in the washroom on the carport.
The main breaker is on the end of the house.
The fusebox is in the washroom on the carport.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:27 am to AU1960
Also I've found that just 1 breaker switch controls the whole house. The other breaker switches don't do crap.
Even though the main breaker switch kills house power. The washroom still has power.
Some wacky set up...
Even though the main breaker switch kills house power. The washroom still has power.
Some wacky set up...
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 8:44 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:06 am to AU1960
How was the ceiling Fan wired? Did ceiling fan have a light? If it only had one switch then you should wire new light the same as ceiling fan was wired. You can ground to the mounting box.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:08 am to baldona
No clue ceiling fan had already been removed.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:26 am to AU1960
It kind of sounds like somebody added a switch to an existing light circuit by just dropping 1 wire down to a switch and tying in the switch to the box in the ceiling. Does it look like the switch was added after the house was built? I would take off the wall plate and check the switch. Correct installation would have the whites wire nutted together and the blacks on either side of the switch. If there is only 1 white and 1 black in the switch and they are connected to either side of the switch than what I am saying is true.
In that case one of the whites in the ceiling box is acting as your switched hot. Its definitely not how it should be done but I've seen some crazy things. I would use a voltage tester to verify.
In that case one of the whites in the ceiling box is acting as your switched hot. Its definitely not how it should be done but I've seen some crazy things. I would use a voltage tester to verify.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:54 am to Specktricity
The light switch has 1 Black and 1 White.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:04 am to Specktricity
I appreciate all the help.
I am as confused/lost as Gus Malzahn in a football stadium.
I am as confused/lost as Gus Malzahn in a football stadium.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:13 am to AU1960
Ok, well then what I described is true. The white wire in the switch is your switched hot, and 1 white wire in the ceiling box is that same switched hot. Is there any marking or tape on 1 of the ceiling whites? Sometimes they will put some black tape on a switched hot that is actually white.
You will need to wire nut the 2 ceiling blacks together. With the switch on 1 white will have 120V and the other will have 0V. You can then wire nut the fixture black to the white coming from the switch and then the fixture whites to the 0V white.
Hope that helps.
You will need to wire nut the 2 ceiling blacks together. With the switch on 1 white will have 120V and the other will have 0V. You can then wire nut the fixture black to the white coming from the switch and then the fixture whites to the 0V white.
Hope that helps.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:36 am to Specktricity
I was thinking similar that the white wires and black wires are mixed up in some way.
I don't think you should trip a breaker just by connecting two black wires on the same circuit
I don't think you should trip a breaker just by connecting two black wires on the same circuit
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:06 pm to Specktricity
Hallelujah baby Jesus and Home and Garden board.
We have LIGHT.
A greatful thanks to Specktricity especially.
I never would have conquered this mess without your help.
Have a great week fellas and I really appreciate yalls inputs.
Lol,
Dayuum!!!
We have LIGHT.
A greatful thanks to Specktricity especially.
I never would have conquered this mess without your help.
Have a great week fellas and I really appreciate yalls inputs.
Lol,
Dayuum!!!
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:55 pm to AU1960
Good work man, I run away from residential work, but I don't mind helping out a friend/poster.
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