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Rules question re Alabama's on-side kick
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:51 pm
Watching the replay, the kicker's planted (L) foot was about half-yard ahead of the 35 yardline (and football) when contact was made with the ball with his R foot.
Why is the kicker allowed to do this? Is there an exception in the rules somewhere?
Thanks in advance!
Why is the kicker allowed to do this? Is there an exception in the rules somewhere?
Thanks in advance!
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:56 pm to Froghair
quote:Not gonna lie....I have always wondered that myself.....just like why is a holder not considered down on a fake field goal attempt.
Why is the kicker allowed to do this? Is there an exception in the rules somewhere?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:18 am to Froghair
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the kicker's planted (L) foot was about half-yard ahead of the 35 yardline
I noticed this as well. According to this rules as I understand them that is offsides.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:52 am to Froghair
I asked a buddy of mine about this. He's been a high school coach for 30 years and he agreed it would be offsides but said in all his years he's never seen it called just cause kicking the ball onsides would be impossible without stepping over the line
Posted on 11/14/19 at 5:42 am to Froghair
Jesus, people:
1. Kicker can be past the line when kicking.
2. It’s only grounding if the QB is under duress. Not under duress when spiking.
3. Exception made in rules for holder during kicks.
1. Kicker can be past the line when kicking.
2. It’s only grounding if the QB is under duress. Not under duress when spiking.
3. Exception made in rules for holder during kicks.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:00 am to Froghair
Bc football rules have always been loosely written and interpreted. It is that way on purpose. There’s too much money involved to not give the officials wiggle room
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:27 am to Froghair
This is an exception to the offside rule. Many rules have exceptions to cover specific situations. All exceptions include very limited actions on the part of the player. Note: I am a high school football official. Broadcasters and coaches are not rules experts.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:04 am to Froghair
Just to consolidate again and add one caveat.
1. There is an exception in the rules for kickers and holder(for those really windy days) on kickoffs regarding offsides.
2. The QB is allowed to spike in order to stop the clock and not be called for grounding but cannot fake or do anything to simulate an actual play first.
3. In college, by rule, the holder is not considered down when on one knee (unless touched by a defender, of course) and can toss the ball to a teammate from that position. In high school, the rule is different. The holder is not down on one knee provided the kick occurs but is down if he attempts to pitch the ball to a teammate while on his knee. This occurred this year in a game between Lafayette Christian and Evangel.
1. There is an exception in the rules for kickers and holder(for those really windy days) on kickoffs regarding offsides.
2. The QB is allowed to spike in order to stop the clock and not be called for grounding but cannot fake or do anything to simulate an actual play first.
3. In college, by rule, the holder is not considered down when on one knee (unless touched by a defender, of course) and can toss the ball to a teammate from that position. In high school, the rule is different. The holder is not down on one knee provided the kick occurs but is down if he attempts to pitch the ball to a teammate while on his knee. This occurred this year in a game between Lafayette Christian and Evangel.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:07 am to Froghair
I mentioned that a few days ago. Would he be considered off sides? That was my question. I have never noticed that before.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:25 am to Froghair
It's supposed to be a violation.
It's stupid officiating and it makes it simple to get an effective kick to that side.
It's stupid officiating and it makes it simple to get an effective kick to that side.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:51 am to Froghair
My question is, can a player call a fair catch on an onsides kick?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:28 am to Froghair
I'm glad you asked that. I had the exact same question.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:42 am to Froghair
As stated the rules grant kick off guys an exception. This was done when soccer style kickers emerged to replace the old straight line kickers. Without this rule no one could kick off soccer style and stay on sides.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:20 am to Froghair
I'm 53 and when I played, there was no exception for the holder so he had to squat over his back foot with his lead foot stretched forward so his knee was not down on the snap. Also to clock the ball the qb had to throw it out of bounds. Good rule changes. I know. I'm old
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