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Rules question re Alabama's on-side kick

Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Froghair
The Great NorthLeft Coast
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:51 pm
Watching the replay, the kicker's planted (L) foot was about half-yard ahead of the 35 yardline (and football) when contact was made with the ball with his R foot.

Why is the kicker allowed to do this? Is there an exception in the rules somewhere?

Thanks in advance!

Posted by Oddibe
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Member since Sep 2015
6629 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Why is the kicker allowed to do this? Is there an exception in the rules somewhere?
Not gonna lie....I have always wondered that myself.....just like why is a holder not considered down on a fake field goal attempt.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
2649 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:18 am to
quote:

the kicker's planted (L) foot was about half-yard ahead of the 35 yardline

I noticed this as well. According to this rules as I understand them that is offsides.
Posted by UncleSlick
PA
Member since Mar 2019
127 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:52 am to
I asked a buddy of mine about this. He's been a high school coach for 30 years and he agreed it would be offsides but said in all his years he's never seen it called just cause kicking the ball onsides would be impossible without stepping over the line
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25608 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 5:42 am to
Jesus, people:

1. Kicker can be past the line when kicking.
2. It’s only grounding if the QB is under duress. Not under duress when spiking.
3. Exception made in rules for holder during kicks.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:00 am to
Bc football rules have always been loosely written and interpreted. It is that way on purpose. There’s too much money involved to not give the officials wiggle room
Posted by jctiger73
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
264 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:27 am to
This is an exception to the offside rule. Many rules have exceptions to cover specific situations. All exceptions include very limited actions on the part of the player. Note: I am a high school football official. Broadcasters and coaches are not rules experts.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
32556 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:04 am to
Just to consolidate again and add one caveat.

1. There is an exception in the rules for kickers and holder(for those really windy days) on kickoffs regarding offsides.

2. The QB is allowed to spike in order to stop the clock and not be called for grounding but cannot fake or do anything to simulate an actual play first.

3. In college, by rule, the holder is not considered down when on one knee (unless touched by a defender, of course) and can toss the ball to a teammate from that position. In high school, the rule is different. The holder is not down on one knee provided the kick occurs but is down if he attempts to pitch the ball to a teammate while on his knee. This occurred this year in a game between Lafayette Christian and Evangel.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16357 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:07 am to
I mentioned that a few days ago. Would he be considered off sides? That was my question. I have never noticed that before.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:25 am to
It's supposed to be a violation.
It's stupid officiating and it makes it simple to get an effective kick to that side.
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
4977 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:51 am to
My question is, can a player call a fair catch on an onsides kick?
Posted by BayouBoy88
Texas
Member since Sep 2011
30 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:28 am to
I'm glad you asked that. I had the exact same question.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
37448 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:42 am to
As stated the rules grant kick off guys an exception. This was done when soccer style kickers emerged to replace the old straight line kickers. Without this rule no one could kick off soccer style and stay on sides.
Posted by Coach C
Member since Jan 2008
454 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:20 am to
I'm 53 and when I played, there was no exception for the holder so he had to squat over his back foot with his lead foot stretched forward so his knee was not down on the snap. Also to clock the ball the qb had to throw it out of bounds. Good rule changes. I know. I'm old
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