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re: How did Hillary know she would lose hours before the polls closed?
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:45 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:45 am to Eli Goldfinger
I have read every book available and they thought they were going to win until they saw Trumps actual numbers in rural Florida at about 7:15 to 7:45 PM election night.
Even then they thought they could still be okay until the saw the exact same numbers out of rural MI WI OH etc. an hour or so later.
The fireworks canceling decision came a day or two earlier because the race was no longer a total slam dunk - they still thought they were going to win though.
What's funny is they were kind of nervous all day (Mook Palmieri Clinton's etc) but the exit polling from 5PM to 7PM had them giddy (and had team Trump despondent). EVERYBODY thought it was over from the exit polling - even anecdotes from the Trump side are consistent with this (yes, even DJT himself thought it was over and he was going to lose for at least an hour). Theres a quote from DJT to Melania while they were leaving the residence of Trump Tower on the 80-something floor to head down to the campaign offices on the 20-something floor that "Ivanka and Jared tell me it doesnt look good". Then over the next 30 minutes as they watched the returns in FL and OH, the mood lifted and 15 mins later as MI and WI started to come in, KAC famously described the mood of that war room as "bouyant".
Even then they thought they could still be okay until the saw the exact same numbers out of rural MI WI OH etc. an hour or so later.
The fireworks canceling decision came a day or two earlier because the race was no longer a total slam dunk - they still thought they were going to win though.
What's funny is they were kind of nervous all day (Mook Palmieri Clinton's etc) but the exit polling from 5PM to 7PM had them giddy (and had team Trump despondent). EVERYBODY thought it was over from the exit polling - even anecdotes from the Trump side are consistent with this (yes, even DJT himself thought it was over and he was going to lose for at least an hour). Theres a quote from DJT to Melania while they were leaving the residence of Trump Tower on the 80-something floor to head down to the campaign offices on the 20-something floor that "Ivanka and Jared tell me it doesnt look good". Then over the next 30 minutes as they watched the returns in FL and OH, the mood lifted and 15 mins later as MI and WI started to come in, KAC famously described the mood of that war room as "bouyant".
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 8:07 am
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Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:54 am to SirWinston
I think you nailed it, spot on.
this from the article link I posted
this from the article link I posted
quote:
Keeping with Clinton's theme of becoming the first female president, Javits offered a gargantuan glass ceiling to hammer home the meaning of her impending victory.
As the New York Times reported, "The symbolism seems clear. Mrs. Clinton has referred repeatedly of busting through 'the highest, hardest glass ceiling' — at least figuratively — by installing a woman in the Oval Office. If Election Day breaks her way, she will address the nation beneath a literal one."
It would have been a perfect photo opportunity. One could imagine Katy Perry's song "Roar" playing in the background, with Clinton hoarse from yelling the names of all the famous women who helped her break the gargantuan glass ceiling that towered above.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 8:48 am to SirWinston
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I have read every book available and they thought they were going to win until they saw Trumps actual numbers in rural Florida at about 7:15 to 7:45 PM election night.
This was the moment. One of Bill's old buddies from the 90s campaigns called him up when the returns out of the panhandle started coming in. In an election that was going to have majorly depressed turnout, there were North Florida counties that were doubling the early returns out of 2008 and 2012. Every old hand knew then that Hillary was in major trouble in the Midwest.
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