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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:40 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41824 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:40 am to
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I didn't know you were omniscient. shite you should have told me, would have saved me a lot of time disagreeing with you.
You don’t have to be omniscient to know this. You just need to read your Bible and try to understand why God has interacted with humanity the way He has in the past and what age we live in now.

God doesn’t act arbitrarily. All that happens is part of His larger redemptive plan. The reason why certain tribes were told to be wiped out is so that God could cleanse the promised land for His chosen people. It had a second purpose of strengthening faith in God by showing His people that He would make them victorious as long as they remained faithful, and that also resulted in the judgment of God’s enemies.

Those events happened in history for a specific purpose and there is no need for that any longer because the land was a means that God used to both physically separate His chosen people from the other nations as well as a physical sign that God keeps His promises. The physical nation of Israel ultimately saw its fulfillment in the spiritual nation of the Church and the embodiment of Jesus Christ, Himself, who obeyed as the people were supposed to obey.

So yes, I know that God wouldn’t command such things any longer because there is no reason for God to do so given that His revelation is complete and His promises are either already fulfilled or are being fulfilled in the commission that He’s given the Church.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/9/19 at 10:34 am to
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Those events happened in history for a specific purpose and there is no need for that any longer because the land was a means that God used to both physically separate His chosen people from the other nations...


It's interesting, you claimed that mass murder was rare yet there are so many instances of it one excuse can't cover all the instances.

David performed a peacetime census and God slaughtered 70,000 of "His chosen people" because of it. So mass murder wasn't just tied to the Hebrews fighting other pagan groups over land.

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...as well as a physical sign that God keeps His promises.


And if God chose, tomorrow, to continue with these "physical signs" that he keeps his promises you aren't in any position to complain or critique. You can keep saying "He won't, He won't!", but you're just a lump of clay who doesn't know God's plan like he does.

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So yes, I know that God wouldn’t command such things any longer because there is no reason for God to do so...


But you don't, though. You don't know that all of God's plans are highlighted in the Bible. Imagine how a Hebrew felt about God and their religion prior to Jesus and the supposed prophecy of Jesus. They'd be just as confident as you are now, yet things changed.

It's within your worldview that God can do whatever he wants. He's the author of life so he can take it. But, seeing where this discussion is going, you don't want to walk too far down that path because you understand that places you in the same boat as atheists.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 10:36 am
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