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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:19 pm to
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But see, that’s not really true. We may claim this to be the case but nearly all of us base our day to day actions around what provides us subjective benefit and what adheres to the social norms of our society. If I’m honest with myself, I stop to help an injured motorist not because there is an objective moral urge within me but because I know society expects it from me and I benefit subjectively from a society whether we all help each other survive
That's a utilitarian form of moralism that works so long as there is perceived benefit associated with with personal actions.

Why should I sacrifice my wants and needs for others if I don't perceive there to be a benefit to myself? And, what if I perceive there to be a benefit to myself by hurting others around me?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Why should I sacrifice my wants and needs for others if I don't perceive there to be a benefit to myself?


You shouldn’t

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And, what if I perceive there to be a benefit to myself by hurting others around me?


This is an urge most of us feel at some point and it’s almost always overridden by the perceived harm such an action would bring to us.

For instance, there are very few benefits I can think of which outweigh the high likelihood of spending most of my life in prison.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:49 pm to
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Why should I sacrifice my wants and needs for others if I don't perceive there to be a benefit to myself? And, what if I perceive there to be a benefit to myself by hurting others around me?



This pretty much sums up where a large segment of western society exists today.
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