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READ THE TRANSCRIPT!

Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:28 am
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:28 am
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Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1m1 minute ago

READ THE TRANSCRIPT!

This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 8:29 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107245 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:29 am to
Dems are more interested in third party hearsay than direct evidence.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:31 am to
There is no opportunity to be creative using just the transcript.

Parody requires creativity.............and the willingness to lie out your arse.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 8:32 am
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:31 am to
But they cant read Donnie
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93771 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:34 am to
"But it wasnt the full transcript it was moved to a private server!!" - Swallowswell
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16347 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:59 am to
Schiff already did!
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57976 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:05 am to
The new stance is "we need to hear the phone call, if a recording exists!"
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:07 am to
Read the complaint:
Whistleblower complaint alleges that Ukraine officials were "led to believe that a [future] meeting or phone call between" Trump and Zelensky would depend on Zelensky's willingness to "play ball"

The phrase "depends on" means that the phone call or meeting was contingent, at least in part, upon Ukraine being willing to "play ball" with the Biden investigation.

Why would anyone expect to see a quid pro quo in a call or meeting that was allegedly a part of the quid pro quo?

I'm a bit curious to see how many times Trump said "Biden" in those ...'s
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:13 am to
Based on Vindman’s testimony, there were other meetings in (addition to the July 25 phone call we have the transcript of) that shed light on the financial pressure put to Ukraine to push the Burisma investigation. Specifically, mentioned was the July 10 meeting with Oleksandr Danylyuk.

Looks like Trump keeps repeating TRANSCRIPT in an effort to take the focus off of those other discussions.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112700 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:23 am to
Defense attorney: Your Honor, I have five people prepared to testify about what the plaintiff said in his testimony yesterday.

Judge: But, I was here and heard the testimony.

Defense attorney: With respect, the witnesses we have are well credentialed as to the matters the plaintiff testified to.

Judge (to the court reporter): Have you already transcribed yesterday's testimony?

Court reporter: Yes, Your Honor (handing transcript to judge)

Judge (waiving transcript in air): I have the actual transcript of the testimony right here.

Defense attorney: Respectfully, sir, these witnesses are more reliable than the transcript.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What do you think the outcome of that exchange would be?
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112700 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Based on Vindman’s testimony, there were other meetings in (addition to the July 25 phone call we have the transcript of) that shed light on the financial pressure put to Ukraine to push the Burisma investigation. Specifically, mentioned was the July 10 meeting with Oleksandr Danylyuk.

Looks like Trump keeps repeating TRANSCRIPT in an effort to take the focus off of those other discussions.


Do you not get that even if all of this is true, this is "SOP"? That the USA leverages its aid to make other countries do shite all the fricking time?

But, because it's the bad orange man, well...that's different.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:01 am to
First, let’s establish definitively whether this is all true.

Second, we can debate whether it is SOP or not. What is appropriate, crossing the line, etc.

But isn’t this a completely different argument than “just read the transcript again”...?
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2954 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:06 am to
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This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 10:08 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109735 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:07 am to
quote:

bmy


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112700 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:15 am to
quote:

But isn’t this a completely different argument than “just read the transcript again”...?


No, it's not. Because whether the transcript includes what Vindeman claims is missing or not IT'S NOT IMPEACHABLE
Posted by NeonSunburst
Member since Oct 2010
2877 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:16 am to

@realDonaldTrump
THEY DONT WANT THE TRUTH!

I really guess i misunderstood some things i was taught in Civics class. IF these 3 branches of government are suppose to keep each other in check, why hasn't the supreme court stepped in to stop this insanity? serious question.

Jeez, its infuriating. day after day.
Posted by MarineVet
Member since Aug 2018
916 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:17 am to
Trump forgot the Jesus principal, you don't have to be guilty to be crucified... The narrative and ground work has been set with the media and leaks, now who ever decides to testify already knows what note to sing. Tim Morrison was on the call and he is gonna say the Trump transcript was doctored or made up and that he was pressuring Ukraine.

Trump would've been a great President if he kept his criticisms in his head and not made so many personal attacks.

I hope I'm wrong but here is a little prediction, Biden falls out of the race, Warren takes lead, Hillary jumps in and steals the primary. Trump under impeachment investigation, Hillary moves to the center and wins the election. Republicans take house, keep Senate and Hillary is a lame duck President.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27578 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:18 am to
quote:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A number of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the record ...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Defense attorney: Your Honor, I have five people prepared to testify about what the plaintiff said in his testimony yesterday.

Judge: But, I was here and heard the testimony.

Defense attorney: With respect, the witnesses we have are well credentialed as to the matters the plaintiff testified to.

Judge (to the court reporter): Have you already transcribed yesterday's testimony?

Court reporter: Yes, Your Honor (handing transcript to judge)

Judge (waiving transcript in air): I have the actual transcript of the testimony right here.

Defense attorney: Respectfully, sir, these witnesses are more reliable than the transcript.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What do you think the outcome of that exchange would be?


This is exactly what is going on but we do not have a fair minded judge to smack the Dems down. Instead we have a compliant Legacy Media (who is an arm of the DNC) spinning for Schiff and the DC communists.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:22 am to
Lets say we give them the Vindman testimony. He didn't say anything that supported a QPQ.
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