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re: What would have to come out for you to say Trump had committed an impeachable offense?

Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:33 pm to
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The summary of the call proves that the whistleblower was right.

Nope
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:35 pm to
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Everyone involved and were there say that didn't happen.


You just can’t be serious.

The summary of the call PROVES that it happened.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:35 pm to
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If you want to treat this as any other legal case, plenty of the Republicans in the Senate would have to be excused. The Sixth Amendment secures an IMPARTIAL jury, and plenty of senators have already said that they would not vote to convict.
More have already said they WOULD

But, you knew that.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:36 pm to
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The summary of the call PROVES that it happened.
False
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:41 pm to
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You do not believe the president should be entitled to the presumption of innocence in a proceeding that could literally lead to a fricking civil war and actual deaths of thousands or more?


There is no presumption of innocence in the investigation.

Threatening civil war because of a procedure that is following the law is horrific. If a gang threatened riots if a criminal were investigated for committing a crime, you’d come unglued, but you think it’s OK to threaten an actual war. Shame on you.
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:43 pm to
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You got proof of said interference? Link?


LINK
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:43 pm to
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There is no presumption of innocence in the investigation.
True

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Threatening civil war because of a procedure that is following the law is horrific.
Meh

Running a secret partisan investigation from a body that is composed of MORE than just one party is scummy.

Moreover, they are quite obviously, investigating for the purpose of improving THEIR chances in an election.

Which, I'm told is a bad thing.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:44 pm to
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LINK


My God.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:47 pm to
The dude just tried to use the Trump "Russia, if you're listening" campaign quip.
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:47 pm to
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I agree wholeheartedly with you, that nothing should be called an impeachment hearing until articles of impeachment have actually been filed.


Sorry, but that’s not correct. The articles of impeachment are voted on AFTER the hearings, which are the investigative phase. When the House votes on the articles of impeachment, if they pass, then it goes to the Senate for the trial.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:49 pm to
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investigative phase


Congress isn't investigating.

Democrats are
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30523 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:49 pm to
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The dude just tried to use the Trump "Russia, if you're listening" campaign quip.

It's quite possible that we have Adam Schiff on the line here. That's his "open collusion".
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:50 pm to
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So in this situation the President of our country either has two choices:


Utter nonsense.

There was no investigation of Hunter or Joe BIden. Joe Biden didn’t do anything that enriched his son. If someone hires his son because of the Biden name, that’s not a crime. If there had been an actual investigation, and Joe had said, “Drop it or you don’t get the money,” THAT would be a crime — but that’s not at all what happened.
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:51 pm to
You don’t seem to understand that doing opposition research through an American company is not a crime. Asking a foreign power to do it IS a crime.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:51 pm to
Psst

Have you guys figured out that Tani is texridder yet?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30523 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:54 pm to
I saw some mention earlier of Texas-themed alter. I'd prefer it to be Ridder, honestly.
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:54 pm to
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Impeachment can only be done by the House. Not a house committee created to oversee an agency of the executive created more than 200 years after the gaddam Constitution was ratified..


"There is nothing in the Constitution that requires a full House vote to launch an impeachment inquiry," Berkeley Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky told Newsweek. "That has been done before, but it is not a constitutional requirement. President Trump is wrong in saying that it is not a legitimate impeachment inquiry without a floor vote."

Do you think you know more about it than he does?
Posted by TommyStGeorge
St George, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
125 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:55 pm to
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There was no investigation of Hunter or Joe Biden. Joe Biden didn’t do anything that enriched his son


How do you know that, if there was no investigation?
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 12:00 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:56 pm to
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I saw some mention earlier of Texas-themed alter. I'd prefer it to be Ridder, honestly.


it's ridder

He's already given his "tell" in this thread.

Frankly, it's pathetic.
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:56 pm to
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Nope


Ooh, there’s a brilliant rebuttal. ??
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