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re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassing

Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:51 pm to
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We'll see. I'd be surprised if we go after Tua any more than normal. Keeping everything in front may be a better way to go. Alabama, much like us, lives on the big play.


Sark and Tua will destroy a predictable defense with no pressure. Do you dispute that’s what LSU is in first halves?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:51 pm to
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The fact UF drove the field 3 times over 11 plays in the first half is an anomaly.




Bama will more than capable of doing the same thing....maybe Auburn as well if we sit on our heels.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:52 pm to
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This Aranda halftime adjustments lie has gotta get called out.
yep. Florida drove 75 yards for a TD their first possession of the second half. And had two other 70+ yard drives later in the second half.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85487 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:52 pm to
Yeah I dispute that. We pick our spots with pressure in the first half too. Sometimes it just doesn't get home.
Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1484 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:52 pm to
Not sure I agree that this is the right tactic for our team given our offense and our defensive personnel.

We have a quick strike offense.

We have a defense that has good man to man corners and lots of speed.

We aren't good at sitting back in zone coverage. We don't have a DL that is not great at the pass rush.

The worst thing for our offense is a team that can control the clock, drive the field, and limit our offensive possessions.

IF we can't successfully drop into coverage, rush four, and get stops...then we are way better off just blitzing the crap out of people and playing man free behind it. We will give up some scoring but it will be quickly. It won't be all the time. We will get some folks behind the chains and force some punts and turnovers.

Since we can apparently score on anyone we just need some stops so we can get a lead. I don't care if we boat race everyone. its still winning.

Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Trask was on the money on some big 3rd down throws, and also in the red zone and that made a big difference.


Being predictable against a good coach and allowing a QB to get into an easy rhythm will do that. Go re-watch the Vandy and NWST first halves. You will see bad offenses go toe-to-toe with us for the same reason.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Forcing a team to drive the field with 12-13 play drives is something you'll take every day of the week.


Except that you have to be able to get off the field on long 3rd downs.

Our defense has to stop missing tackles and blowing coverages. We may have the right defensive philosophy in this offensive era, like you are saying, but there is still a whole lot of improving the defense needs to do.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:53 pm to
So terms of the deal:

- I
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provide you more than one link of you saying I'm an Orgeron hater (I'm not finding 50 damn links. I used that as a number to suggest you did it often). I can certainly find some though.



Just make it ten. One out of fuve times is more than fair

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I provide links to you constantly defending a bad offense last season
.

Absolutely. Let's quantify that at 10 and we are talking about the offense as a whole, not a few games. That should be very easy to do since I "constantly did it"

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perma ban for me if I don't provide links. Perma ban for you if I do provide links.


You leftvone out

Where I said you believe Orgeron and Burrow "suck". Should be easy enough

Now go for it.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85487 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Bama will more than capable of doing the same thing....maybe Auburn as well if we sit on our heels.



They're capable, but it's still unlikely for any offense to do that.

If LSU holds Alabama to 5.4 yards per play, we win easily. We have to stop the chunk plays. Every team will mess up here and there and you'll get a stop.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Well you don't expect it to happen a bunch. You take the approach that they're going to have to drive the field a few yards at a time if they're going to score, but you obviously hope to stop them during the drive. The fact UF drove the field 3 times over 11 plays in the first half is an anomaly.


If we continue to be predictable and get no pressure on spread QBs, this will not be an anomaly.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21453 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Where I said you believe Orgeron and Burrow "suck". Should be easy enough


Can you not read?

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I just told you, you may have not used those words, but I took you saying I melted over Burrow all off-season to mean I thought he would suck. I asked you to tell me what you meant and you still refuse to do so. No link needs to be provided for this



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Just make it ten. One out of fupive times is more than fair



I'll find 5. That's plenty enough to prove that you have done it multiple times.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85487 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Except that you have to be able to get off the field on long 3rd downs.

Our defense has to stop missing tackles and blowing coverages. We may have the right defensive philosophy in this offensive era, like you are saying, but there is still a whole lot of improving the defense needs to do.


No doubt. There is work to do, absolutely.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:56 pm to
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I just told you, you may have not used those words


Backing out already

So you lied, strike one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:57 pm to
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but I took you saying I melted over Burrow all off-season to mean I thought he would suck.


That's because you're dumb and spiteful

You said the entire offense sucked donkey dicks
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Yeah I dispute that. We pick our spots with pressure in the first half too. Sometimes it just doesn't get home.


Then you are objectively incorrect by any reasonable measure. That’s probably why a simple stunt that resulted in a 2nd half sack seemed like water in the desert.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21453 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Backing out already


Backing out? You are the one who keeps throwing all this crap in to not accept. All I wanted was a yes or no, and you can't even do that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:58 pm to
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No doubt. There is work to do, absolutely.


The problem yesterday is they effectively milked the cl Cl limiting our profile possessions and scored.

That's a defensive breakdown.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21453 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:59 pm to
One more time:

1- 5 links of you referring to me as an Orgeron hater.

2- multiple links showing you defending the offense last season.

3- provided by Wednesday at 4 central.

4- I'm perma banned if I can't provide links by the time posted.

5- you perma banned if I do.


Yes or no???
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 2:00 pm to
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We aren't good at sitting back in zone coverage. We don't have a DL that is not great at the pass rush.



you're being overly kind.

We suck at zone coverage, often being out of position and our pass rush is negligible with 4 pass rushers...and here we are rushing 3 at times.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Backing out? You are the one who keeps throwing all this crap in to not accept.


I haven't once.

All you have to do is prove the exact things you claimed I did or permaban.

Very simple. You're confident, do it.

Or just admit you're a drama queen and casually throw out stuff you don't mean, I'll accept either

So either thank you, or adios.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 2:01 pm
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