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Anyone else feel like "Joker" wasn't really about the actual Joker?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:35 am
Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:35 am
It's a great movie with great acting obviously - but I kinda feel like some chode wrote the perfect script for a Falling Down sequel - Falling Down 2: The Asylum but to sell tickets they rebranded it a Joker origin story, changed some names, and tweaked the ending.
It's great, like I said, just doesn't feel like the Joker. He's WAY too reactionary and passive to be the iconic villain. Better said, he's victim not a villain.
It's great, like I said, just doesn't feel like the Joker. He's WAY too reactionary and passive to be the iconic villain. Better said, he's victim not a villain.
This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 9:37 am
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:36 am to theunknownknight
I mean...Phillips has pretty much said it was a way for him to sneak an art house film into a comic book movie.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:37 am to theunknownknight
I get what you are saying....and yes, you could have removed the clown aspect of the move and it would not have impacted the movie. He could have been a pizza driver and the symbol of revolt have been pizza.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:37 am to Fun Bunch
I didn't know that - but it definitely feels like a different movie was snuck into the genre.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:48 am to theunknownknight
It was essentially two hours of chronicling the mind of a serial killer
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:23 am to theunknownknight
Too many folks aren’t giving enough credence to the fact that this is an origin film for a character we’ve only ever seen fully realized.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 12:09 pm to sorantable
Many great comic book movies are "something else" pushed into a comic book movie.
Logan: Western
The Winter Soldier: Spy movie
Logan: Western
The Winter Soldier: Spy movie
Posted on 10/12/19 at 1:01 pm to Ragnar Danneskjold
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Many great comic book movies are "something else" pushed into a comic book movie.
Logan: Western
The Winter Soldier: Spy movie
Days of Future Past: It's a Wonderful Life
Posted on 10/12/19 at 1:08 pm to theunknownknight
It was basically Taxi Driver but with Joker. I thought it was a brilliant film and he pulled off the character so well.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 1:37 pm to theunknownknight
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I kinda feel like some chode wrote the perfect script for a Falling Down sequel - Falling Down 2: The Asylum but to sell tickets they rebranded it a Joker origin story, changed some names, and tweaked the ending.
You keep saying this, but Phillips has been known to have been working on a script for three years now, and the early talks to get Scorsese involved, his co-producer actually coming on board, and the obvious homage to Sorcese's previous movies makes the chances of this being a reworked script pretty nil.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 3:38 pm to theunknownknight
It is an origin story...It’s not like Hitler started off with The Final Solution.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 4:24 pm to theunknownknight
Just come to terms with the fact that JP put out a better Joker portrayal than hl. Some of y'all are trying way too hard to shite on this movie.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 5:22 pm to DJ3K
It was two completely different portrayls for two completely different types of movies. both actors did a phenomenal job. Can't say one did a better job than the other. You could say I prefer Todd Phillips' joker to christopher Nolan's joker.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 6:13 pm to sorantable
Not to mention there is no one true origin of the joker considering dc conics have different stories of his origin
Posted on 10/13/19 at 6:35 pm to lsucoonass
The Joker doesn't really know his own origin. The comics establish that clearly.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 7:18 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
So what’s the bitch?
Posted on 10/13/19 at 7:45 pm to theunknownknight
Because he wasn’t the Joker for like 80% of the movie
He wasn’t a villain yet
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He's WAY too reactionary and passive to be the iconic villain.
He wasn’t a villain yet
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:00 pm to jg8623
The Bruce Wayne in this movie is way too short to be Batman.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:06 pm to theunknownknight
The comics origins for Joker are purposely hazy.
This was a great movie but it's not the Batman Joker.
This was a great movie but it's not the Batman Joker.
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