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The reason President Trump is using Giuliani.

Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:25 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:25 am
President Trump is holding Bill Barr's feet to the fire. Bill Barr's biggest problem is not prosecuting the corruption that the public already has knowledge of.

Giuliani is ensuring the public is fully aware of the corruption, mal and misfeasance that preceded and occurred during President Trump's tenure.

And it's not necessarily Bill Barr's feet that needs to be held to the fire. It's his underlings. The holdovers from previous administrations that hate Trump. When the public has knowledge of corruption it makes it more difficult for Bill Barr and his underlings to push Bill Barr to whitewash deep state corruption and crimes.

That is Rudy's role.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52336 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:27 am to
That's exactly why they are threatening news networks for giving Rudy airtime.

He got documented proof of his claims. They can't have that in the public purview now can they?
Posted by Jopete
New Iberia
Member since Apr 2019
373 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:28 am to
i hope you are correct....let us know when somebody goes to prison, otherwise it's just the same old same old....
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 7:30 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:29 am to
quote:

let us know when somebody goes to prison, otherwise it's just the same old same old....




I agree.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:30 am to
Rudy needs to get his story straight because he is all over the place as to whether or not his "meddling in an investigation" was state sanctioned or not
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154051 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:32 am to
You seem to care about election meddling only in one direction.

Weird.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57634 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:32 am to
quote:

And it's not necessarily Bill Barr's feet that needs to be held to the fire. It's his underlings.


That seems a pretty simple fix...

Barr: Prosecute Comey for lying.

Underlings: No.

Barr: *writes up underlings for not doing their job, files it with HR, repeat process two more times*

Barr: You're fired.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16926 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:35 am to
Barr is building a case against the Deep State. Barr represents the legitimate government of the US, and by extension - you and I.

Rudy is defending the case the Deep State tried to bring against Trump. Rudy represents Trump.

Barr is about to drop a MOAB on the Deep
State.
Posted by mrsray
Member since May 2019
318 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:37 am to
Barr definitely needs a push
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38207 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:38 am to
So why is Giuliani not the AG?
Why was Barr picked over him?



There was research on both. Whuh happin?
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:40 am to
I think the primary reason Rudy is involved in so much is because Trump can’t trust his own branch of govt. Dems think Rudy’s involvement in Ukraine is proof of extortion and cover up. The far more logical and practical reason this is the only way to investigate. Is he supposed to trust the FBI and CIA to investigate their own illegal activities?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:42 am to
quote:

So why is Giuliani not the AG?


The Senate would not confirm Giuliani.

quote:

Why was Barr picked over him?


Barr is a friend of a lot of Senators.

quote:

There was research on both. Whuh happin?



Senate happened.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Is he supposed to trust the FBI and CIA to investigate their own illegal activities?




Right. This too.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:44 am to
quote:

So why is Giuliani not the AG?


Because being Donald Trumps personal attorney pay way better!
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65100 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:44 am to
Rudy discrediting Volker who is about to honor the State Dept subpoenas and go before House Judicial committee of just Democrats. Volker denied sending Rudy to Ukraine and helping him make the necessary contacts. Remember Rudy said the State Department contacted him to get all the dirt on Democrats Ukraine had and been trying to give out intelligence agencies; well Volker denied involvement and described Rudy as some rogue agent...Rudy produced the Emails showing Volker contacts and help setting it all up. Volker has stepped down and now complying with Subpoena and will talk to Dem only committee. So, Rudy, so far, is kickin arse
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30514 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Rudy needs to get his story straight because he is all over the place as to whether or not his "meddling in an investigation" was state sanctioned or not


Just because you cannot understand or comprehend what Rudy is saying doesn't mean Rudy needs to get his story straight...

You seem to have a lot of trouble with simple concepts...
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1658 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:47 am to
quote:

his "meddling in an investigation" was state sanctioned or not


His Ukraine investigation on behalf of Trump began and ended before Muellers probe ended- and he was acting as Trumps legal defense.

Months later, he was contacted by the STATE DEPT, and asked to re-engage with Ukraine. He has the text messages and emails to prove it. Now were those State dept officials (Volker in particular) trying to set him up, that’s possible. Especially considering Volker resigned shortly after Guiliani released the text messages.

Rudy’s story is pretty straight and he’s got the evidence to back it up.... if Rudy was “incriminating” himself in any way, Dems wouldn’t be desperate to silence him.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Rudy discrediting Volker who is about to honor the State Dept subpoenas and go before House Judicial committee of just Democrats. Volker denied sending Rudy to Ukraine and helping him make the necessary contacts. Remember Rudy said the State Department contacted him to get all the dirt on Democrats Ukraine had and been trying to give out intelligence agencies; well Volker denied involvement and described Rudy as some rogue agent...Rudy produced the Emails showing Volker contacts and help setting it all up. Volker has stepped down and now complying with Subpoena and will talk to Dem only committee. So, Rudy, so far, is kickin arse


Yeah, because of emails and text messages Volker is in a tough spot and those same emails and text messages gives Rudy a proper reason to investigate the Ukrainian situation.

+1 for Rudy here.


Volker's duplicitous actions here out him as a coup participant.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Is he supposed to trust the FBI and CIA to investigate their own illegal activities?



Bottom line.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61605 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Barr is about to drop a MOAB on the Deep
State.



I have zero faith this is going to happen. In fact, I have very serious doubts.
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