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re: It’s becoming clear there is no whistleblower
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:04 am to bmy
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:04 am to bmy
quote:Within the entirety of the law that is true. The entirety of the "law" is not in question. However, within the law, not all complaints are of equal importance. Accordingly, what is in question is the element of the law which elevates complaints to the level of "urgent and credible," therefore requiring transmission to Congress.
The law does not require first hand information.
The ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing. Whistleblower speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA for transmission.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 8:09 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:09 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Accordingly, the ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing. Whistleblower speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA for transmission.
I understand the distinction you are pointing out but that is very different from what the Federalist (and Trump) were saying about second hand info.
Now, where are you seeing that the complaint is being supported exclusively by second hand info before transmission?
quote:
The IG said that while the whistleblower was not a direct witness to the call, the IG separately obtained other information during its preliminary review that supported the allegations to deem them credible.
LINK
This sounds rather ambiguous to me
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 8:13 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:15 am to NC_Tigah
Would the whistle blower have to have a reason (plausible) to file the report instead of taking it up the chain of command?
This just appears to be coordinated.
I believe them when they say by any means necesaary.
This just appears to be coordinated.
I believe them when they say by any means necesaary.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:18 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
The ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing. Whistleblower speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA for transmission.
"In order to find an urgent concern “credible,” the IC IG must be in possession of reliable, first-hand information. The IC IG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing."
It does not say that the first hand information must come from the whistleblower. That's part of the vetting process.
I use the analogy (to clarify the first hand info bit) of hearing a supervisor brag about extravagent spending on the taxpayer dime. The whistleblower didn't see it, he has no proof.. but he could still blow the whistle. The IG can then look at receipts or financial records and use that 'first hand' information the whistleblower was not in possession of to meet the statutory requirements of ICWPA.
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