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re: Global warming - climate panel sees dire future
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:21 am to PT24-7
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:21 am to PT24-7
The daily mail took concerns out of context to publish a fake story and had to put this before it.
The dude whose research they used to prove that leaders were being "duped" said that it wasn't the case. But daily mail is what it is, I suppose.
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the complainant said that the significance of Dr Bates' concerns about the archiving procedures had been misrepresented in the article, and the newspaper had taken no steps to establish the veracity of Dr Bates' claims. World leaders had not been 'duped', as the headline said, and there was no 'irrefutable evidence' that the paper was based on 'misleading, unverified data', as the article had claimed.
The dude whose research they used to prove that leaders were being "duped" said that it wasn't the case. But daily mail is what it is, I suppose.
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Kids were marching with banners the other day claiming "capitalism" was the problem.
Well those kids are idiots, it doesn't mean this isn't a problem.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:24 am to Space Cadet
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it doesn't mean this isn't a problem.
In your opinion.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:25 am to bmy
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Half a century"... more like a 10-15 years
15 years, 50 years, and 150 years are completely insignificant on a global scale.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
This, there’s a lot of stuff that people on both sides can agree on about the environment. However, when people continually get exposed for trying to force extreme views down our throats it should make you pause for a second.
Most people want a healthy earth, I think pretty much everyone agrees on that. However I’ve found that most of the time people in the US have no clue how little is known about climate and our effect on it yet it’s preached to us in absolutes. When someone tells me something I know is a theory at best yet sells me that it’s fact and I’m going to die in 12 years....I’m skeptical
Most people want a healthy earth, I think pretty much everyone agrees on that. However I’ve found that most of the time people in the US have no clue how little is known about climate and our effect on it yet it’s preached to us in absolutes. When someone tells me something I know is a theory at best yet sells me that it’s fact and I’m going to die in 12 years....I’m skeptical
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:29 am to Space Cadet
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Well those kids are idiots, it doesn't mean this isn't a problem.
So millions of kids worldwide chanting the same doomsday shite, and you think it's organic protests organized by children...
Epitome of naivety.
"You'll die of old age, I'll die of climate change" made it's rounds across the world and you think this was the kids idea.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:29 am to Space Cadet
Yeah but they had....the cataloging of data was at question.
However, this proves my point. You’ve made up your mind that your in on man made climate change. Numerous articles can be presented to show you alternative data and you will try to discredit that data bc it’s not what you believe. So essentially, it’s your religion.
However, this proves my point. You’ve made up your mind that your in on man made climate change. Numerous articles can be presented to show you alternative data and you will try to discredit that data bc it’s not what you believe. So essentially, it’s your religion.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Seems like you’ve got a bit too much Reynold’s Wrap on your dome this morning buddy.
A Week ago, hundreds of thousands of kids walked the streets chanting "you will die of old age, I'll die of climate change."
This idea was planted by adults, using kids as a propaganda tool.
You people are demented.
Yall have scared a 16 year old Swedish girl who has anxiety, depression, aspergers and selective mutism so badly she can't eat for months.
You climate change extremists are a cult, a cult that uses children to hide behind.
This.
They have resorted to using kids as emotional human shields to protect themselves from rational debate.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
This is what’s hilarious.
When that happens “they’re just stupid kids”
However, they are being used and exploited for a political cause.
It’s a real problem these kids are being indoctrinated and not taught how to think critically for themselves.
When that happens “they’re just stupid kids”
However, they are being used and exploited for a political cause.
It’s a real problem these kids are being indoctrinated and not taught how to think critically for themselves.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So millions of kids worldwide chanting the same doomsday shite, and you think it's organic protests organized by children...
Epitome of naivety.
"You'll die of old age, I'll die of climate change" made it's rounds across the world and you think this was the kids idea.
I was talking about the anti-capitalism part. I think they have good reason to be upset about the anti-environmental movement.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:37 am to PT24-7
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However, this proves my point. You’ve made up your mind that your in on man made climate change. Numerous articles can be presented to show you alternative data and you will try to discredit that data bc it’s not what you believe. So essentially, it’s your religion.
No, I just read the article that you shared. It had a disclaimer that caught my attention.
Not sure how this is religious, you keep bringing it back to that. If there is a problem and some people want to take measures to solve it, how is that religion? Maybe we have different definitions of the word?
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:38 am to PT24-7
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a theory at best
This is going to come across as a minor nitpick, but it really is a big issue for the population at large. Phrases like "a theory at best" or "just a theory" make absolutely zero sense in a scientific context. This is because a theory is the absolute best that science has to offer. There is nothing "better" than a theory in science. There could be competing theories for the same phenomenon, and there very often are. Some theories are more well-tested than others. Some theories are accepted for a long time before being debunked in a subsequent test.
It just happens that theories about climate change are incredibly difficult, if not possible, to test completely.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:39 am to SoulGlo
Adults creating "eco anxiety" over climate change
Adults terrorizing kids
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Child psychologist Andrew Greenfield explained that 'eco-anxiety' comes from young people feeling 'helpless' about the environment
In her explosive speech, Greta said: 'We are in a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you!'
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Mr Greenfield addressed the heightened 'emotion' of Greta's words and urged young people to conduct research on climate change.
'Everyone sees her emotion, it was quite an emotional speech that she made,' Mr Greenfield said.
'To me, I encourage kids to try and research as much as they can.
'It's very difficult to know what to believe for a lot of these kids as well. They've got to believe what people around them believe, what their teachers say, what their parents say and what their friends say.'
Adults terrorizing kids
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In July 2018, the Berkeley City Council in California issued a resolution declaring a worldwide “climate emergency,” calling it “the greatest crisis in history” after evoking memories of World War II.
The following month, Salon magazine announced it is time to “start panicking” over climate change.
“It is time for us to panic about global warming,” wrote Salon contributor Matthew Rozsa. “Indeed, a proper state of panic is long overdue.”
Last May, the Guardian newspaper released updates to its official in-house style guide intended to sharpen its climate change rhetoric in order to alarm readers and motivate them to action.
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As activists attempt to scare people into becoming eco-warriors, it is no surprise that children are suffering psychologically as a result, since they do not possess the critical thinking skills necessary to separate the facts from the hype.
When they hear that the world is ending or that human civilization has only ten years to exist, they tend to believe it.
The Climate Psychology Alliance said psychiatric drugs have been administered to some children complaining of eco-anxiety. The group is now pushing for official recognition of eco-anxiety as a psychological phenomenon.
In 2017, the American Psychological Association released a report acknowledging the impact of eco-anxiety and calling for further research into the mental health consequences of climate change.
Ms. Hickman said that parents should learn to use gentler language in talking to their children about global warming.
“What you don’t want is that child to collapse in a well of depression saying ‘what’s the point in going to university,’ or ‘what’s the point of doing my exams,’ which I have heard children say,” Hickman stated.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 10:40 am
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:40 am to Space Cadet
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I was talking about the anti-capitalism part. I think they have good reason to be upset about the anti-environmental movement.
There is no anti environmental movement.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:48 am to Space Cadet
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:49 am to Centinel
quote:So we outsource all our production to China and then blame them for the consequences? "It's not us, it's them!"
The United States and western Europe aren't the problem, and haven't been for almost half a century. Yet no one wants to address the countries that are actually the problem.
That is not how leaders behave.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:49 am to SoulGlo
She will make a really good cult leader for the Climate people.
I bet she already practices screaming into a mirror about climate shite.
I bet she already practices screaming into a mirror about climate shite.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:50 am to SoulGlo
I mean, that's gonna be for every politician, right?
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:51 am to SoulGlo
But like the Salmon guy said, the politics don't concern me. A capitalist solution would be better than a socialist one, definitely. But we need to get past the denial, that's what confuses me.
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